Zimbabwe bigger than Chamisa: Zanu PF

ZIMBABWE is heading for elections next Monday and opposition political parties are piling pressure on the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission (Zec) to reform the electoral roadmap ahead of polling day. On the other hand, the ruling Zanu PF party has somehow been quiet, raising suspicion that it was conniving with Zec to rig the elections. Last Friday, the Nelson Chamisa-led MDC Alliance tabled its key conditions to Zec, saying if these remained unresolved by Monday next week, they would make it impossible to hold the elections.

Obey Manayiti

The demands will be discussed tomorrow under the auspices of the multi-party liaison committee. Our senior reporter Obey Manayiti (ND) at the weekend had a chat with Zanu PF secretary for legal affairs Munyaradzi Paul Mangwana (PM), and below are excerpts of the interview.

ND: As Zanu PF, you have been participating in the multi-party liaison committee meetings with other political formations, what do you make of the demands by the MDC Alliance?

PM: No. These demands came to us as a surprise. We have been involved in interparty dialogue and I have been leading the Zanu PF team and these dialogues started almost four years ago. The three political parties represented in Parliament meet once every week and these particular demands never came to the agenda. We were actually taken by surprise.

ND: What is the nature of their demands?

PM: They are saying they want to test the ballot papers, they want to escort the trucks that move the ballot papers to the polling stations and they want to test the quality of the paper itself and its scientific composition.

They have not come out clearly why they are making those demands, but we suspect that they think the X put as a sign of voting can mutate from one box to another. In other words, if you vote for Zanu PF that vote can move to the box where MDC Alliance is or vice versa.

This is why they say they want to test the ink and the paper to see whether if they put an X in a particular box, it will remain there. I think this belief can only be based on superstition more than science.

They have not proven to us that this is possible and where it has ever happened in the world.

ND: So you mean you have never heard of a situation whereby votes mutate? That has been the same allegation in 2013.

PM: Scientifically, it has never happened anywhere. There is a level of superstition that is acceptable in the living world, but this level of superstition is completely unreasonable.

Votes cannot move, otherwise people can stop writing examinations if, when writing exams, answers move to another candidate. That is what they are saying and it has never happened anywhere.

ND: They (MDC Alliance) are alleging that Zanu PF is conniving with Zec to rig the elections. What is your comment?

PM: That is completely hogwash. It is untrue. Zec is an independent body and we meet with Zec at the same time with other political parties. We don’t hold private meetings with members of Zec.

In fact, Zec itself in terms of composition, except for the chairperson, was appointed by the Standing Orders and Rules of Parliament, which is a multi-party committee of Parliament and the leader of MDC Alliance, Nelson Chamisa, is a member of that committee and is the one who participated in the setting up of Zec.

For them to turn around and say Zec is an extension of Zanu PF is completely hogwash and untrue.

ND: Do you fear the elections? Why is there suspicion that you will connive to steal the elections?

PM: Zanu PF is the people’s party. We liberated this party with the participation of the citizenry and we have been managing the affairs of the people and giving them a clear direction, and we are moving with the people and have no fear whatsoever.

We don’t have any fear. We have our very popular leader and we have popular policies, and we are taking Zimbabwe to the right direction and the people love our leader. We don’t fear and we don’t need to have witchcraft in order to win the elections.

We are going to win the elections on the basis of the popularity of our party, policies and leader.

ND: On Tuesday you will be going for a multi-party liaison meeting where MDC Alliance is pushing through its demands. What is your position as Zanu PF and do you also have your own set of demands?

PM: We don’t see the reason behind the demands and we have said to them, we are not the final arbiter and we are saying make your demands and Zec will make a decision. However, we are saying Zec is staffed with men and women of integrity.

ND: The Elders Council issued a statement with regards to making unreasonable demands at this juncture. There are reports that you might have influenced them to say that. What is your comment?

PM: Zanu PF coaching Koffi Annan, the former secretary general of the UN? Zanu PF coaching Mrs Robertson, the former Prime Minister of Ireland? Zanu PF having that capacity to influence such eminent people? We don’t have the capacity to influence such eminent people.

These are people of integrity and are respected internationally. They are simply being objective and that in this modern- day world you cannot base your demands on witchcraft. Basically, MDC Alliance believes in witchcraft but we are not sorcerers.

We will request the MDC-T to move to the modern scientific world and let’s continue with the elections. The people of Zimbabwe can judge a good leader, a poor leader, a childish leader and I think some of those demands are purely childish.

ND: The MDC Alliance has been threatening to boycott the elections or picket at Zec offices and disrupt everything if their demands are not met. Will you go ahead with the elections as Zanu PF if one of the main contenders pulls out?

PM: MDC Alliance cannot hold Zimbabwe at ransom. They don’t own Zimbabwe. They are a voluntary organisation which exists on the basis of volition. If they decide that they will not participate in the elections, it’s their choice, but we will continue with the elections.

They don’t own this country, nobody owns this country and no political party owns this country. We hold elections with those organisations which volunteers to participate.

There is no requirement in this country for the registration of political parties in order to exist and so if today the MDC decides they don’t want to exist, it’s up to them. If they decide that they are turning themselves into a football club, it’s up to them, if they choose to be a political party that participates in elections, it’s again up to them.

Let them make a choice in the same manner they chose to exist. If they decide that they are now politically irrelevant, Zimbabwe will not stop moving because of that. We will continue holding the elections.

If they choose to disrupt, we have structures of the law in our country and they will act accordingly. If anyone attempts to disrupt these elections, the law will deal with them.

Let the people of Zimbabwe be assured that the government has the capacity to maintain law and order.

41 Comments

  1. Taura zvako iwe Mangwana. Rega Chamitiswa nemakororo ake eVanguard varege kupinda musarudzo kana zvirizvo zvavada. Asi kana vada kukanganisa runyararo rwedu ngavasungwe mugopotsera maKey mugungwa. Mazidofo avanhu

    1. The level of “superstitious suspicion” being peddled by Chamisa and his starry-eyed supporters is beyond measure. Mutating votes! Its truly a first in a world outside science-fiction.

      1. Not at all. Spy services and military intelligence used this from the second world war. Since then this field has evolved technologically. The only shameful fact is the intelligence and military in Zimbabwe apply what should be nation to nation craft against their citizens! If there is no possible tampering, then why the resistance?? Not all Zimbos are stupid or illiterate

  2. Farai Johnson Nhire

    Chamisa certainly has no capacity to win or stop the elections. In the case of him being serious in his threats to resort to unconstitutional means to resolve his grievances, he has to be very very cautious. I would encourage him to ponder over these questions: 1 What is the diference between a political party leader and a rebel group leader? 2 What was Jonas Savimbi of Angola’s fate and why? 3 What was General Farai Ideed of Somalia’s fate and why?

    1. Farah Aideed.

  3. MPM hit the nail on its head. I am shocked by the response by MDC Alliance suporters on the observations by the Elders. Even the media like the Newsday. When the elders came it was all celebrations that they will pressure Zec and ED. Instead they made shoking conclusions. I think even now Chamisa is just barking knowing he is finished. Mangwana is right Zim cant be held to ransom by political fools of certàin politucal beliefs and no ideolgy. We are tired of these politicians.

  4. MPM hit the nail on its head. I am shocked by the response by MDC Alliance suporters on the observations by the Elders. Even the media like the Newsday. When the elders came it was all celebrations that they will pressure Zec and ED. Instead they made shoking conclusions. I think even now Chamisa is just barking knowing he is finished. Mangwana is right Zim cant be held to ransom by political fools of certàin politucal beliefs and no ideolgy. We are tired of these politicians.

  5. Anonymous you are right and you make sensible observations. The whole world covered the trip of the elders to Zimbabwe and most of the private media was allulating at the coming of these respected men and a woman. Remember MDC alliance supporters once celebrated when Kofi Anna talked about the need for generational renewal then he was their favourite. He was said to be objective and intelligent. When he made comments unfavourable to the MDC alliance he automatically became and enemy. That is the nature of MDC and its supporters. We are sick and tired of these kind of characters. Zimbabwe is bigger than individuals.

  6. Irregardless of the reasons given by the alliance I just don’t see anything difficult in ZEC allowing parties to inspect samples of the ballot paper to their satisfaction, something so simple, its a basic right that shouldn’t even be begged for

    1. Is that what the electral law dictate?

      1. Not necessarily, it’s called common sense. When votes have been stolen before and recounting of just over 1.5 million votes took 5 weeks, you’d be a bloody fool to take such people for granted. Not everyone is foolish or naive. Where were these “elders” when elections were stolen. They’re very welcome but voters use their own brains, they don’t outsource thinking.

        1. Check what the law says about SFE(similar fact evidence )kana munhu akamboba hazvirevi acharamba achingoba

  7. Fosholo Kapwepwe

    Like a woman scorned, best describes Chamisa’s tantrums. One would have thought he had the momentum and confidence but too much moaning and whining makes one wonder if he is a bad loser after all? Shall we leave it to the people?

  8. kkkk mutating voters kkk a vakomana X moving from MDC to Zanu PF vakomana zvimwewoka vakomana hazviiteso

  9. Takamira pazambuko this time zanu hairume.Hatichatauri zvedu toda kukuroverai mubox ne -x zvakasimba muchataura mega kuti tadyiwa.

  10. It seems the conditions for elections laid down by zec favours zanu pf,if not why is zanu pf not complaining and fighting against the MDC Alliance? Paul Mangwana is as idiot as the whole zanu pf system represent the true facts as it is. All zimbabweans, kurudzirai vana amai,vana gogo,vanasikana,vanakomana uye vanababa nevanasekuru varikufamba nembama yetsoka vachibayirwa mahara vachienda kumisangano yeZanu pf neZEC, misangano yerima iyo isingayashunduri Zimbabwe. Vaudzei kuti vasiyanane nekuunagnira zvenhando. Zanu pf and Zec ngazviparare zvachose muZimbabwe.

    1. Beloved Zimbo

      Dear Sandy why the insults say your views in a mature manner. The beauty about democracy is that everyone is entitled to an opinion and if you do not share the same opinion then tolerate that. Paul Mangwana responded to questions he was asked that is what he had to say. Why are you insulting him and the ZANU PF system. Maturity and tolerance are the pre-requisites of a progressive nation.

  11. Comment…hatichada kunzwa chinonzi zanu hapana arimu zanu asinakuwondonga nyika

  12. Comrades, let us desist from the pettiness of politics of insults and character vilification and deliver our message with clarity to salvage the nation from political decadence, misrule and democratic absence.
    We need a custodian of the nation’s wealth and resources who can redeem the its image from the current corruption, insatiable greed and moral decadence. One who can reconcile Zimbabwe’s broken people after many years of political and socioeconomic turmoil.
    We urgently need a manager of the state affairs with political maturity and intellectual honesty -a steward of integrity, humility and congenial in nature as we put the posterity on the line.
    Its time for those politically enlightened to represent hope over fear to liberate those mentally incarcerated from the current political misconception. Good luck!

  13. Farai Johnson Nhire

    The issue of the quality and type of the ballot paper is a security issue which should be revealed to neither Zanu Pf nor Mdc Alliance. Neither of the two main parties should have the kind of information that would enable them to make their own counterfeit ones. If you were the governor of the central bank, would you give the citizens the know how of how to print money and the type of the paper used and where it can be found?

  14. Zec should just comply to the demands only if its an Independent Body.
    Why are they behaving like a department of Zanu Pf??

  15. #handeitione #kwekwehim

  16. Yes of cause Tariro, Zec is party and parcel of zanu pf’s stealing and destructive machinery because it is always siding with its par ZANU PF.

  17. Farai, don’t be so naïve my bro

  18. Paul Mangwana, Zanu pf is not bigger POVO

  19. All the opposition members once belonged to Zanu PF

  20. It is complete and utter insanity for the majority of poor Zimbabweans to vote for ZanuPf multiple farm owners. Black people used to say they did not like whites because whites owned farms etc.etc. why then vote for ZanuPf which is dong worse than whites – owning multiple farms.
    Here is the long list:-
    Unfortunately, I got a message from that Newsday will not accept the long list.

  21. The last sentence should read, “Unfortunately, I got a message from Newsday that it will not accept the long list of ZanuPf farm owners”.

  22. Many zanu pf supporters invaded the farms during farm invasions,but all my god,the rest of them were chased away and Mugabe today is having 21 farms and same as ED Mnangagwa. What is zanu pf doing in zimbabwe? Where is the Marange diamond money going to? The toll gates,Beit bridge to Harare highway,the road is a narrow strip into the high density location. Why are zimbabweans so bribed by zanu pf’s evil spirits? Zanu pf must go and demise forever.

  23. ED Pfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  24. Primitive Ape Mudzimu,mweya yekutambura kwevanhu ichakuparadzai rimwe zuva.

  25. Time to flush out one by one all these few shit will come until zimbabwe is free fro zanu pf’s evil spirits.

  26. Speak for yourself!

  27. This the last kick of a dying horse .We all know the truth the crowd have spoken,and they will speak in the ballot box unless miracles happen.This land belongs to GOD and he will not allow us to continue suffering at the hands of tiranies.Thos ewho are leading us now have hands drenched in blood

  28. Comment…Kukanda Nekuvhika, chimbo chakasiya chaimbwa naTongai “wekwaDhehwa” Moyo. ZVIUYA ZVIRIMBERI. Dzedu sevenyama, ifungidziro chete.

  29. If Chamisa and his goons try to disrupt the election, law enforcers will arrest him. Chamisa must stop thinking he is special, he will face jail. I do not see the international community acting against Zimbabwe this time around. The international community is tired of Zim politics. Remember, Jonasi Savimbi was backed by the USA and its Western allies for many years but when he crossed the line, America and its allies dumped him. Savimbi was killed by Angolan forces like a rat. Chamisa be careful!!! Be warned, the fate of Savimbi may befall you if you try to bring anarchy to Zimbababwe.

  30. Zanu PF is led by a bunch of GERIATRICS and followed/ supported by imbeciles. So brained stained by the idiocy of ZANU PF. It amazes me how one can be so daft and lacking the will to think independently. How many of you Zanu boot lickers here would continue to employ an employee who for years has told lies, killed and stolen? Even where common sense is expected; you lack that. I wonder what decisions you also make in your personal lives, that is even if you are capable. Whats so hard about letting other parties inspect the ballot paper if u have nothing to hide!
    Vote for change or forever be an EDiot in the school of imbeciles where foolishness abounds and numbs your brain!

  31. BUT DESPITE ALL THAT. ZANUPF WILL STILL WIN BECAUSE IT HAS GENUINE SUPPORTERS NOT THE FACEBOOK TYPE, THE SOCIAL MEDIA TYPE WHO COMMENT AND YET YOU NOT EVEN IN THE VOTERS ROLL. ED PFEEE

  32. Mangwana says ZanuPF cannot influence an individual Koffi Anan but they always preach MDC influenced the US and other western governments to impose sanctions!!! What hypocrice

  33. Zimbabwe don’t have humans, but primitive Apes

  34. How can ED Mnangagwa suddenly changed the fortunes of zimbabwe which he had destroyed for 38 years and he and Zanu pf’s campaigning manifesto has been there and is the very same policy ideology that has made zimbabwe dismally destroyed by these EDiots? Wake up mani zimbabweans we are dealing with evil people who sees change as a misfortune.

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