No tsvimbo, shorts in court — Vapostori ordered

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THERE was drama at the Harare Magistrates’ Courts yesterday when 24 members of the Johanne Masowe weChishanu apostolic sect were barred from entering the courtroom wearing short trousers — which are part of their religious outfit.

FELUNA NLEYA
STAFF REPORTER

Court officials accused the members of the apostolic sect of breaching the court’s dress code which requires formal wear.

The apostolic members had come to court for their routine remand hearing in a case where they are facing charges of assaulting police officers and journalists during a raid at their Budiriro shrine in Harare early this month.

They are part of the 35 sect members arrested in connection with the violent act.

The sect members were later allowed in after their lawyers Obey Shava and Andrew Makoni filed an urgent court application seeking an order to relax the conditions on dressing.

Presiding magistrate Donald Ndirowei acceded to the request on condition the sect members left their shepherd’s staves — with which they allegedly attacked the police — outside the courtroom.

Of those who appeared in court yesterday, 14 were coming from home after they paid the $100 bail granted to them last week while 10 others are still in remand prison as they have failed to raise the money.

The court remanded them to July 1 for trial.

Ndirowei yesterday set free three other sect members on bail after their lawyer applied for their release on changed circumstances.

The three — Milton Munda, Dennis Banda and John Mutasa — were released on $100

bail each, ordered to continue residing at their given residential address and to report once a week at Harare Central Police Station.

The sect leader Madzibaba Ishmael Mufani and some of his followers are still on the run.

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  1. The court’s dress code is in breach of one’s constitutional rights coz its premised on colonial thinking.What is formal?If a Muslim was to appear in court wearing the usual attire yatinovaziva vachipfeka.Parikuitya sei.

    • the judicial atire n practise is 95% colonial cz hapana kana chimwe chakachinjwa from the Rhodisian practises. this includes the dress code. our own constitution is also likely to have excluded such elements. dare rinotongwa navadare asi mucourt munhu one ndiye anotonga. tinoda chirungu too much . the maTswanas are realy proud of being Tswanas n they go fo 100% local content. ngatikopeiwo.

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  2. This is very interesting, initialy when this case started , vachizopihwa bail, vanga vakapfekeyi, zvavazoona nhasi kuti vane mashorts.

  3. @Tendai, Hoko and Mberi u are all very correct otherwise magistrates should not try prisoners from remand prison if they are not brougt in wearing Vanhussein shirts, Pino Gardin Suits and Emmanuels shoes.

  4. When attending court one must always dress smartly. Shorts, t-shirts and other casual dressing are not permissible. Where practical, one must be in a tie and jacket for men. For women, decency is the key. Short skirts, skimpy tops and tight jeans are not permissible.

    Such is the brutality of our law-colonial thinking indeed!!!!

    • The Madzibaba you are talking about does not wear suits. The shorts are their fulltime regalia. This issue is based on their beliefs. If you force them to wear trousers you are making them to breach their beliefs. Pane nyaya apa

  5. what do the prisoners come wearing then? prison garb consists of shorts so they should rectify the issue of the prison attire asap because we cant have selective application of the law, one is innocent until proven guilty at a court of law so magistrate xotsha lezibotshwa kufanane then mayb the postori will listen to you

  6. kana mapurisa vachitadza kubata mupositori zvake asina kana military intelligence kuzoti pakaita nhubu chaiyo inoponda nekubata chibaro vachaibatirwa nani apo ndivo vakatadzirwa

  7. The court is part of the western culture. What’s more important is the building and the dressing. That’s what Madzibaba Ishmael is denying. Before the Courts emerged we used the Dare under the big tree and traditional rulers. (Those had a full knowledge of what we believed in).Now it is the Magistrate who have Graduated through western ways and his court that operates on the same laws. A court must not discriminate people because itsd not a public house where people enter at their own will. Zim is a free country any1 must enjoy the freedom.Chero ane nhembe ngaapinde muCourt. Ivo veMadzibaba havapfeke suit zvachose.

  8. Isn’t this a form of discrimination based on religion when the Law specifically is against Discrimination based on gender, beliefs etc?

  9. Siyanai mapositori aya,from the start u shld hev brought them to jail…police yaitsvakei kumasowe,chasara kunzwa kuty majudge acho azorohwa manje nenzimbo idzodzo…ndivana moses kana ava dzinomera makumbotsvimbo dzikachaya vanhu….kkkkkkkkkk

  10. Vanhu mopenga shuwa…….u have developed dis stupid mentality of opposing anything nd everything dat d gvmnt does……kana waputsa mutemo u don’t have any rite whatsoever……hapana ati vasapfeka mabhurugwa avo but once u in a coaut of law u hv to abide by d law….kana jesu akati kudzai vatongi nemitemo yavo nokuti muripanyika so b4 u oppose think of yo facts first…….kana watadza tarisana nemutongo….hezvo vanamati saka how dd dey fnd themsevles fighting? Does thr church believe in fighting too?by dat act dey dd breach thr own code dats y dey r under d law so jus like any1 else dress in coaut so must they too……No tsvimbo NO chikabudura…..I love dat

    • Mhazi I agree with u pple don’t know the law only dey want iz to disagree pasi netsvimbo zviisei pasi pevane masimba nevarikukutungamirirai imi moti kwete hativengi mapositori asi tovenga hunhubu chete

      • The vociferous support this cult is getting from people brings shades of Islamic and Christian fundamentalism right on our door step. Boko Harem in Nigeria and their die hard supporters despite their wave of terrorism.Al Qaeda and the Taliban and the support they were getting from ordinary Pakistanis and Afghans and the terrorism of Al Shabaab in Somalia despite their antiquated beliefs. That these groups infringe on the rights of their hapless followers like impressionable women and children is lost on society. That this Madzibaba Ishmael Mufani is equally a deranged , dangerous and barbaric cult leader of the lunatic fringe is also lost on many Zimboz minds because of their misguided hatred of the ZRP. Two wrongs will not yield a right. Our government should not be cowed by this fanatic mindless support from clueless people who are urging these primitive dangerous people to fight on against the Establishment. Despite the overwhelming support for the fundamentalist and violent Islamic Brotherhood the Egyptian army had to stamp their authority and forcefully sway back the Egyptian society on the road to civilization, sanity and modernity after Harold Mossi and his Brotherhood were taking Egypt on the backward route of Islamic fundamentalism and ancient religious practices.

    • Mhazi tell me something, by saying “kana waputsa mutemo u don’t have any rite whatsoever” are you implying that they are already guilty before the trial is complete? One is innocent until proven guilty – not the other way round. Secondly where was the dress code when the police/journos/Ndanga visited the shrine? RGM respected the dress code among the mapositori. Facts are we have a case of double standards, selective application of the law, we have a western model justice system period!

  11. Kumasowe topfeka regalia asika kana tawa kwedu kucourt toita zvinodiwa nemutemo tikauya pakirawu tobvisa shangu ko seimusingadewo kuteerera mutemo kumba kwenyu muri baba asika mauya kwangu ndini baba zivai mutemo vadikani ndosaka makazorova mapurisa inyaya yekusaziva mutemo

  12. Do wats right; @ my own perspective view ,the judge took corrective measures as we all know that its a taboo to wear casual inside the courtroom so……………

  13. Ko madzibaba Ishmael havasati vabatwa? Havana kuhwanda here kuya kwakazowanikwa n’anga yedhiziri?

  14. These mapostori must be serious, why bring their threatening weaponry again. Good move magistrate, otherwise unokwaturwa mu court mako imomo

  15. chii chinoshamisa about wearing their shorts?those in remand prison they come to court wearing prison clothes(shorts nezihembe) if those apostles found guilty they wil stil going to wear the shorts

  16. Kumatare edu echivanhu munhu arikupomerwa mhosva anogariswa pasi chaipo pakati pevanhu vose. Haatofanirwi kugara pachituru. Dare roga roga rine mitemo yaro, saka ukaenda kumatare ehurumende unotofanirwa kuita zvinodiwa nematare iwayo, ukauyawo kune edu matare echivanhu tinokugarisa pasi tokutonga uri ipapo!!!.

  17. Surely there’s a time to dress for church, to dress for work, to dress for play & to dress for court

  18. Imi musade kungo chema chema nazvamunoziva kuti hazviite,colonial kuita sei kwacho,kubva munoda kuti munhu apinde mu court chero nepantie,manje hazviite mutemo unotonga nyika haushorwe,takagadzira bumbiro remutemo makatadza nei kutaura dressing conduct yemumatare edzimhosva.

    • Aiwa nyaya ndeyekuti “shorts” in court yet Prison attire is composed of the same! If there were denied on this basis, then the law/regulation is defeating itself.

  19. something id terribly wrong with the law. it needs an urgent attention. so does it imply that if one does not have a decent outfit he is unfit for trial? OK. what then is to be done if one fails to acquire that kind of expected decency? Is he/ she denied justice because one is poor or inaccessible to decency? what do they need to try here? the suit or the accused? remember justice delayed is justice denied. the magistrate is right by enforcing an existing law but, on the contrary, the law is outrageous.

  20. Veduwee! Please enough is enough.

    We need to separate constitutionality from human rights. Fundamental freedom.

    What we are now doing is tartamount to persecution and definitely we are impinging on vapostori’s freedom of worship. We need to be very careful or else we find ourselves fighting against the Almighty and we become a cursed nation beyond redemption.

    We established a look east policy,right!` lets look east.

    The Chinese do not go into the Tibetan mountains hunting the Tibet monks and forcing them to go to school. After going through all the school routine and hopefully University, is employment guaranteed in Zimbabwe?

    Who has seen a mupostori kid who cant read and write? be honest guys!

    He is taught painstakingly, learns traditional metal work and many other trades trades that we get to at Polytechnics and University.

    Now you are denying fundamental freedom of recognised church attire. Are you sure that you are genuinely concerned on security? Are vapostoris a threat to our police force? One biting dog does not lead to labeling of all dogs as vicious. Let us not stoop so low to fight the men of God. It is high time we employ our hundreds of graduates in psychology to understand vapostori and use brain rather than have the entire Zimbabwe Republic Police on a manhunt of one unarmed man of God who erred just for 1 day least we expose our weaknesses as a force.

    Let us concentrate on important issues as a nation.

    Police Please leave Ishmae alone.

  21. Tiri and Hanada you have rightly said.kana wave mucourt woita zvemo ka. Zvekuti kuchurch kwako unopfeka zvakati nezvakati inyaya yako iyo.Ngavapfeke fomal.pavari pese ava hapana kana angashaye one trousers neshirt pahembe dzake.lets not reason too much.mutemo mutemo.moda kuti uchinjwe nemapostori akatadza kuzvidzora akashoresa zita raMwari here.makororo ayo arikuvanda nezita re church abusing women.nxaaa ngavapfeke formal apo.vatibvire.vanamate nemoyo wese kwete zvavakatiitira apa.kunamata kwekupi kwavakatiratidza uku. musareverere vanhu ava mhani. they r busy abusing women isu toda kuvareverera zvisina basa.Haiwa imi kunamata kwekupi kwavakatiradza. shuwa hanzi we were fighting a Holy War. aaaaah holy war hairwiwe physically mhani.matsotsi arikuhwanda nechurch aya varume ngavatendeuke ava

  22. take two woda kuti Ishmael asiiwe.come on.are u saying this is not an important issue?Dont u hev a heart for the women and young girls who are been abused. get real mhani. Bhinya rakadaro rosiiwa. haaa kana ndaramba.Achabatwa chete. this an important issue also. imi vamwe vevanhu ava varikuvanda nechurch mhani. Munhu ngaatongwe nemhosva yake aaaah kusiya Ishmael kana ndaramba.

  23. Vapositori were provoked and as a result lost self control look at the spontaneity of their reaction.

    The insults by Ndanga were arrogant,callous and deeply insulting.In addition the assault on the entourage was totally unpremeditated .

    The action of Vapositori can be classified as spontaneous or implusive reaction to provocation!

  24. The issue here is not about supporting the marauding Vapositori who did us a big favour by disciplining the ZRP who for long have been brutalising the same people that they are supposed to protect. I beleive those unfortunate to have been at the mercy of the police are still in celebratory mood, just like me. That however is not the point. The point is Zimbabwe as a country is full of embarrassing paradoxes. Why do we continue to cling to colonial standards as if as a country we are intellectually bankrupt to set our own agenda. The magistrate was correct to demand the colonial dress code from the incarcerated Vapositori as he was reading from the archaic constitutional code that was made for us by the hated slave drivers of the UK. We have since made our own cosmetic constitution that dismally fails to tell the full Zimbabwean story as it should be. Otherwise the learned magistrate was simply doing his job!

  25. If ey r e man of God, nd holy as some of u claim, en why did they breach the law by behaving in such a barbaric manner. They should respect the rule of law and conform to the requirements of the courts. Imagine if all of us want the courts to respect our traditions or “church attires” what a chaotic society we will have. Barbarism will never be condoned whatsoever!

  26. THE COURT DRESS CODE IS KNOWN BUT ITS FLAWED CAUSE PEOPLE IN REMAND COME IN VAPOSTORI LIKE GARB NO WONDER THE MAGISTRATE RELAXED THE RULERS CAUSE IF THE ISSUE HAD GONE BEFORE THE CONCOURT WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE BEEN DECLARED NULL AND VOID AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TANTAMOUNT TO PERSECUTION ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS BUT THAT DOES NT ABSOLVE THEM OF WRONG DOING TILL THEIR TRIAL AND A GUILT OR NT GUILT VERDICT IS PRONOUNCED.

  27. indururani dzemapostori idzi.idzwai.mutemo wekumasowe unoti tigare takapfeka short ne t-shirt ichokwadi.asi mutemo wekumasowe unozoti tinosungwa nemutemo wenyika zvakare remekedzai hutongi huri peri kwenyu nendima dzavagere.so mweya mutsvene wakatonga kare.ngavatevedzere zvinotaura vatongi.

  28. this dress code should not b a hinderance fo one to attend court,think of a situation where one’s only descent attire is a short and a T shirt,so this person cant attend court
    No doubt this regulation is ultra vires the bill of rights, am happy to note that there ae people who think.and whose comments are worth reading

  29. Surely most of us like talking too much and worse talking with misguided facts ,courts are courts we are agree but the church members never requested or asked to dragged to court ,it is the same journalist reporting today and the police with the aid of the magistrates who invaded and invited them to court now they want to make too much noise about the court room .At first it was the breach of unconfirmed human abuse and now it is dress order .Why are forcing them to accept only that which we believe and want .Those abused at the shrine why didn’t they leave to other churches if ever there was any abuse ,did they call the police ,zanu youth,journalists to come to their rescue? Why in the first place troop inn a convoy as a UN convoy escorted by jounalists into Iraq oil fields? We are being misled to believe in a certain manner by a certain political party that wants to divert all our attension from the real cause of our daily problems to useless cooked political ideas.The public order re-ammendement act states that the police shall first send a notice ,then warning,then physically come with loud speakers and notify the riotous before attacking them ,then give them time to dispace then come to attack but all those ways were nevere followed thus the dubius police and jouno ended up in serious problem now they seek redress ……Where is money to pay us civil servants ? THIS IS THE MAIN ISSUE of today.

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