Zanu PF invites Chamisa party for talks

PRESIDENT Emmerson Mnangagwa’s Zanu PF party has offered an olive branch to the Nelson Chamisa-led MDC Alliance by inviting the opposition party to an interparty dialogue meant to resolve the economic and political challenges facing the country.

BY OBEY MANAYITI

Previously, the interparty dialogue platforms were meant to work on areas relating to elections between the political parties and selected leaders from all the parties that have representation in Parliament.

Zanu PF secretary for legal affairs, Munyaradzi Paul Mangwana, said the ruling party stood ready to engage Chamisa’s party in dialogue through such a platform, but on condition that he accepts the outcome of the July 30 harmonised elections.

Chamisa has rejected President Emmerson Mnangagwa’s victory, but said he is open to dialogue to solve the legitimacy issue surrounding the elections.

“We are trying to start meetings once Chamisa clears the confusion in his head,” Mangwana said.

“The confusion relates to accepting parliamentary results and not accepting Presidential results when elections were happening at the same time. His Members of Parliament have been sworn in as MPs and taken up their seats in Parliament and he continues to say he doesn’t recognise the presidential elections,” Mangwana said.

He said the Constitutional Court had already made a decision.

“Once he (Chamisa) accepts that the decision of the Constitutional Court is final, then we will resume the interparty dialogue,” he said.

“We want to look at issues of mutual concern among political parties and things that we can work together and see how we can move our country forward, from the economic front and legislative front, if there are any laws we feel we must improve, then we negotiate that.”

Mangwana said Zanu PF could not engage Chamisa in the interparty dialogue when he does not recognise the outcome of the elections.

“We are saying let’s go past that and recognise the outcome of the elections and then, as the sons and daughters of Zimbabwe, we sit down and look at the challenges and see how we can resolve them together,” he said.

However, MDC secretary-general Douglas Mwonzora said they stood ready to dialogue, but would not accept being given conditions by Zanu PF.

“We are ready for dialogue, but it must not have conditions. So we totally disagree with Zanu PF when it wants to set conditions for the dialogue. It must be dialogue without conditions,” he said.

Mwonzora said the interparty dialogue meetings were fruitful in bringing about the biometric voter registration issue and crafting the code of conduct for the political parties that was used in the elections.

63 Comments

  1. Comment…the dialogue should not give conditions to the mdc alliance. these two parties should do their dialogue in peace no intimidating to each other ngavataurirane becaz todq development .

  2. I see Zanu PF here trying to play hard ball by wanting Chamisa to accept what he does not. If dialogue is to happen, let it be without setting conditions because what if Chamisa says Zanu PF must first accept that it stole the Presidential vote before any dialogue? Nothing will take place whilst the country is burning.

    I respectfully disagree with Mr Mangwana where he said and i quote “The confusion relates to accepting parliamentary results and not accepting Presidential results when elections were happening at the same time. His Members of Parliament have been sworn in as MPs and taken up their seats in Parliament and he continues to say he doesn’t recognise the presidential elections,” Does it mean it that the results/outcome is supposed to be the same for both,NO?.
    All parties must put the country first before anything else, tirikutambura veduwe.

    1. @MaChekera,there’s no way Nelson can expect ZANU PF to accept that it stole the vote because no election was rigged and the sulking WaMajecha knows it!!! If Wamba WaMajecha does not want to be accommodated formally as Leader of the Opposition, hameno hake-it’s his flipping political funeral because the next opposition leader will certainly gladly grab it with both hands.

      1. So to hell with the dialogue then. The MDC is not in govt; its not expected to deliver because they are not the govt. They are also not on sanctions – they can travel anywhere in the West as they please, even for shopping should they choose to; so why should they worry about the dialogue?

  3. Mangwana you are the one who is confused, you should know that Zimbabwe no longer need people like you, but need people who are nation building and who can unite all people . Why do you want to give MDC conditions , kana muchida kutonga tongayika then what is your problem ?

    1. Comment…APA wataura hamaapa .munangagwa kanaariiye mutungamiriri zvaaida ngaachitongaega chamisa anomudireiko

  4. MDC should have either refused all 2018 election results since they were done at the same time and under ZEC and same conditions. Zvino zvaChamisa zvokuda power like zvaakabvuta pakafa Morgan hazvingaitwi on Presidential position. Chamisa thinks that vanhu vacharwadziwa neeconomy and they will turn against the Mnangagwa government. KKK never economical problems have no political boundaries they affect both ZANU PF and MDC.

    1. Actually, we’re already against this government. Open your eyes!

    2. Actually, we’re already against this government. Open your eyes!

      1. Shotgame Musaiona

        Speak for yourself Kay JOHNNS. I’m not opposed to this govt.

      2. Kay Johns you were always against this ruling government. we who are for it are not moved an inch by your publication. Iwewe gara wakedero. isusu togara tekedero. Handei tione

    3. @ anonymous, Zanu ngaisiyane naChamisa itongeka. Ko vanonetseraneyi naye ivo vatori bho havo? Chamisa can wait for the next 5 years. Regai Garwe ritonge haro tione.

  5. I don’t think Mr Mangwana’s utterances will move us forward as a country. By the way is he the party’s spokesman or else he was speaking on his personal capacity.

  6. shunguhadziurayi mangarayi

    But its funny that some people are now so possessed with hate to the extent that they no longer see bad things being done by their leaders. Chamisa is on record saying we can only dialogue with ZANU PF if President ED accepts that he stole the election. So is that not a condition? and who is supposed to give conditions? The winner or the looser? If that dialogue can not take place for the good of this country then as citizens and voters we will weigh who the problem is among the two and come 2023 it will be again one way for Africa by Cde Chimbetu.

    1. Tongai makanyarara. Handiti makahwina zvinemutsindo here?

    2. well who wants dialogue…let it play. everyone is in their tent..toona kunowira tsvimbo nedohwe

    3. Tongai ka tione.

    4. its simple zanu pf ngaingotonge whats dialogue for, mdc is not in gvt

    5. Zanu PF should just rule yakanyarara, why do they want dialogue for?

  7. Ana Mangwana, it’s only a matter of time before Zimbabwe starts calling you by the name Muridzamhere Paul Nezuro. You speak with such nauseating arrogance of a mkorokoza or kombi tout as if someone has just lied to you that you have been appointed Deputy God.Nyika haitongwe nechihwindi bharanzi iwe.

  8. mangwana you are delusional. you won the elections as you claim so go ahead a rule. why do you want to give conditions to chamisa yet you are the ones who need him, he should be the one giving you conditions. you dont insult the person that you need. nonsese

  9. kana vanhu vakahwinha zvine mutsindo ngavatonge zvine mutsindo vanyerere. why do you need dialogue. munozvigona win the Economical issues just like kuhwinha kwamakaita maElections. period

  10. Kohavasi kutonga here anaMangwana vacho. Kutonga kuita seiko nhai. Zvanzi huyai titaurirane tione kuti tofambisa zvinodakuitwa munyika, so that you can also have a say in the governance of our country. If varikutongwa vacho vachinzi huyai titaure vachiramba then hapana zvekuita because its their constitutional right which they will have chosen to do. Vanotonga vanongoenderera mberi and thats it. Tisazvinyepera kufunga kuti ana ED vacharega kutonga nekuti vakomana varamba dialogue. Pakutaurirana you also bargain by asking for your demands like electoral reforms which they wish to see happening. To be honest manumbers eopposition mashoma to influence change without the bargaining power in dialogue. My thinking ……..

    1. he really neeeds to clear his confusion in his head no conditions on either side they should put their country first

    2. @Munya. You are wise and articulate. Opposition supporters do not seem to realize that despite losing the elections they too have a role to play in improving the governance of the country. It is absolutely idiotic and dull to chant a Tendai Biti slogan like,”Tongai tione” as if by losing elections (fairly or otherwise) the losers ceases to be part of the country. MDC Chamisa’s starry eyed supporters seem to have a death-wish for the nation. Its tragic to hear Zimbabweans wishing bad luck to their own country because their favorite candidate claims, without proof, that he was cheated out of his so called “victory.” Patriotic Zimbabweans should realize that Zimbabwe comes first and foremost to any politician. It is our only country that we can take pride in despite its seemingly insurmountable challenges. Its the greatest heritage that we will bequeath to future generations. Kuramwa sadza nekuti Chamisa aka dyiwa ma elections zvinokupei iwe ne mhuri yako? Pamberi ne Zimbabwe.Pamberi kweku batana kwe vanhu nemarudzi emu Zimbabwe!

  11. After going though some comments by MDC supporters/activists or whatever, it is evident that these guys are full of bitterness, hate and are so stressed I dont see them lasting until 2023. Ukanzwa munhu achiti “tongai tione” anenge arwadziwa munhu iyeye asi chekuita hapana. The bark of a dog cannot stop the movement of a train. Hilary Clinton strongly feels that elections in her country were rigged in favour of Trash but her party allows America to move forward. Its only in Zimbabwe kwaunoona ma losers achikanda mavhu muhupfu. Nyera mativi dzevanhu. Ndimi makakonzeresa cholera imi

    1. So what’s your problem if kana train iri kufamba. Just ignore the dog.

  12. After going though some comments by MDC supporters/activists or whatever, it is evident that these guys are full of bitterness, hate and are so stressed I dont see them lasting until 2023. Ukanzwa munhu achiti “tongai tione” anenge arwadziwa munhu iyeye asi chekuita hapana. The bark of a dog cannot stop the movement of a train. Hilary Clinton strongly feels that elections in her country were rigged in favour of Trash but her party allows America to move forward. Its only in Zimbabwe kwaunoona ma losers achikanda mavhu muhupfu. Nyera mativi dzevanhu. Ndimi makakonzeresa cholera imi

  13. you guys won resoundingly, so go ahead and implement your manifesto
    you thought it was a joke wen Biti said the young man hold the keys.

  14. Makati Chamisa is immature now what dialogue do you want to have with an ‘immature, childish, cry-baby’ Chamisa. Why do you now recognise his importance? Concourt yakati maka hwinha. Tongai zve moga. Iwe Mangwana tone down your language otherwise you find yourself in the cold like Chinamasa airasa wo muromo.

  15. People like Paul Mangwana are politicians of yesteryear, in fact Zanupf as a whole died a long time ago with Mugabe, just a boring waste of time

  16. he really neeeds to clear his confusion in his head no conditions on either side they should put their country first

  17. ingawani MDC ndiyo yakatotanga kutaura zvema conditions izvi asi nhasi uno vavekuti hatidi kuisirwa maconditions kkkk ava vana vadiki chaiwo vanoda kuti ngoma ingoti kwangu kwangu chete….ngavazive kuti havasiivo varikutonga saka zvimwe ngavaiite vachizvidzorawo kuitira kuti zvinhu zvinyatsofamba zvakanaka kwete kupiya nyika ndare kwavarikuda kuita uko

  18. Dialogue for what? Zanu and ZEC rigged elections and then dropped in the constitutional court to consolidate their position. They have not until today explained the differences in parliamentary and presidential results. Differences of over 40000 without any written on verbal explanation. Now they have put Zimbabwe in a mess and are desperate to have talks with Chamisa to save their face.

  19. “We are trying to start meetings once Chamisa clears the confusion in his head,” Mangwana said.

    Now that kind of arrogant language will surely bring Chamisa to the negotiating table. Well done Mangwana, your diplomatic skills are totally impeccable!

  20. If Zanu pf won resoundingly and have what it takes to run the nation, why dialogue with a loser who is confused?

  21. Mangwana is very right . Chamisa has to accept the election results for dialogue to take place .The Mps accepted and took their positions . The presidential candidates should also take their positions . The positions are ED president and Chamisa the best losing candidate . This is time for the reality and not opposing for the sake of opposing .

  22. kkkk komatongai tione ndeeyi! dialogue hairevi kuti chamisa anzi tibatsirewo kutonga.

  23. I hope and pray that both parties be honest with themselves and the people.
    The real truth is with the people, if truth be told.
    Yes we are all sons and daughters of Zimbabwe so dambudzo riri panaani kuzoti zvafungwa ne sons and daughters of Zimbabwe hazviite. It boggles the peoples’ minds.
    Torai chokwadi chamunosiwa mese mosevenza nechokwadi Zimbabwe inobudirira.

  24. Chamisa is giving false hope to his fanatics again with the collusion of the private media. Zanu PF ichamupingudza, Zanu PF will tame him.

  25. Problem yedu ndeye nzara uye mamwe ma comments so unotoshaya kuziva kuti munhu anepfungwa here kungorotomoka

  26. VamweVanhu so

  27. Rather ZANU PF must admit that they stole the election but now bcos the going is getting tough they want dialogue..Nero ramba wakatsika mafuta,let them fail without interference.

  28. Zanupf EDiots must be taught a lesson never to steal elections again, we are going to spend the next 5 years in chaos and confusion, bhora musango kusvika ED ati amai

    1. asi iwe uri mbavha chete! So nyika yacho iakatambura iwe unenge uchiguta nhai. Urimbwa yemunhu. I dont support ED or Chamisa, but I dont see how a normal person can wish people poverty etc. Shit

  29. It has slowly dawned on some “winners” that the “losers” are actually their MPs since they reside in towns. Meanwhile the rural “winners” will lose the most as always. Zanu PF is an elastic band which has lost its elasticity or a bubblegum which is now bitter. Why should NC even talk to ED? About what?

  30. ZANU PF Gukurahundi Party – who needs who here? MDC are not on sanctions, they can travel anywhere in the world as they please. They are not the government – they are therefore not held responsible for delivering on the economic front. They are not responsible of bringing in investors, or creating jobs for the unemployed. Their job is to oppose you – a very easy task compared to yours of governing albeit through stolen elections. So, a beggar cannot be a chooser. You can not therefore place any conditions for dialogue – the MDC loses nothing!

  31. Ed haana nhamo yaanoona povo ndoinotamba tsvuku zivai zvekutaura

  32. Zanu PF secretary for legal affairs, Munyaradzi Paul Mangwana, said the ruling party stood ready to engage Chamisa’s party in dialogue through such a platform, but on condition that he accepts the outcome of the July 30 harmonised elections.

    What Zanu PF is failing to understand is that the party blatantly rigged the elections denying the people of Zimbabwe, and not just Nelson Chamisa and his MDC Alliance friends, a meaningful say in the governance of the country. The regime denied the 2 to 3 million Zimbabweans in the diaspora a vote, for example, for no better reason than that it feared most of them would not vote for Zanu PF.

    This idea that Zanu PF can now sit down with MDC, bribe Chamisa, and share out the spoils of the gravy train and everything will be ok is an outrage. We know MDC leaders have sold-out in the past and will do so again now, if offered the right bribe. What MDC leaders must understand is that they do not have the power to give Zanu PF the mandate to rule the country. MDC cannot turn illegitimate Zanu PF into a legitimate regime!

    The international community, including the investors and lenders, know MDC leaders are corrupt, incompetent and sell-outs, they will never be fooled into believing the country’s pariah state status has changed just because Chamisa has been given a ministerial limo and a fancy title to match.

    When the South Africans told Ian Smith they could not support him any more, he and his Rhodesia Front friends accepted the game was up. The British, who have stubbornly tried to prop up this Zanu PF junta since last November’s coup, have finally told the regime that they cannot do so any more following the blatant vote rigging. ED must accept the game is up and not drag the nation deeper into the abyss!

  33. Comment…they are suppose too accept first then dialogue will come

  34. Comment…mwarindiyechiworora manje kanamusingakete vanhumoseimimi
    kunyarara ndokunopedza kutaura maiziva

  35. No MDC govt no economic recovery for this country even zanu knows it pretty well.You can see how they are panicking trying to bring in the party of excellence in their govt by even creating a dubious post of official opposition leader , run to Mugabe kunyengerera spend 500 000 for funeral for Grace ‘s mother then papara papara kuna va Trump try give him land he never asked for kkkkk hayi mani you won and said you were not same as Mugabe now deliver sibone phela .Even if you give zanu 100 years to remain in power nothing will change economically . kkkkkkkk next time we will be told the President is surrounded by thieves and tankers coming in town to get rid of those thieves kkkkkkkk

  36. Comment…Vanhu hamuna kwenyu imi zanu hamutongi nyika mukaigona kueconomy pasina vana chamisa dzikamai dialogue riri kudiwa but don’t give conditions nyadzi dzokunda rufu tozviziva mapererwa asi makunyara chete tsvagai mamwe maturiro NERO akunzwei mugadzirirwe nyika napresident we vanhu Chamisa

  37. Be steadfast Khamisa dont give in to this Mafia. Big Josh, Tsvangson all went into the belly of the beast called ZPF never to be seen again politically. If the Govt of Zimbabwe want to do what they should have done in 1980 and recognise the leader of the opposition then it is fine. It has nothing to do with Mnankwankwa’s benevolence.

  38. chamisa knew as well he is nearing the end of his political career,he also knew that even if brought into gvt he also will not deliver and this will be a shame,those he lied promised him money denied it,he is clueless,what is left in him is power hungry,if you think Trump will lift the sanctions becoz chamisa is now in gvt forget,chamisa is another beggar who want sell our country to dogs,hiding about change

  39. Comment…Nhayimi, makazviwona kupi zvakadaro kuti, “Chikwata chakakunda zvine MUTSINDO kudaro chinoshuvira kubatsirwa nechikwa chahakakunda zvine MUTSINDO kudare. Inhau dzekuda kuti pepa nhau ritengwe zvine MUTSINDO idzi. Asiwo kana riri idi, zvonyadzisawo zvine MUTSINDO. Asi ini andiwone seidi. Nekuti Makurukota eHurumende akatogadzwa zvine MUTSINDO neMutungamiri wenyika.. Vatadza basa ngavayende kumba, kotsvakwa vamwe vanoshnda zvine MUTSINDO. Ini fambe ini fambe ini terereeeee. Mawonero angu.

  40. Nhayimi, makazviwona kupi zvakadaro kuti, “Chikwata chakakunda zvine MUTSINDO kudaro chinoshuvira kubatsirwa nechikwa chahakakunda zvine MUTSINDO kudare. Inhau dzekuda kuti pepa nhau ritengwe zvine MUTSINDO idzi. Asiwo kana riri idi, zvonyadzisawo zvine MUTSINDO. Asi ini andiwone seidi. Nekuti Makurukota eHurumende akatogadzwa zvine MUTSINDO neMutungamiri wenyika.. Vatadza basa ngavayende kumba, kotsvakwa vamwe vanoshnda zvine MUTSINDO. Ini fambe ini fambe ini terereeeee. Mawonero angu.

  41. Comment…Chamisa
    is said to have lost and l see no reason why the winners would want to engage him. All what we want is the fulfillment of the promises made by the winning party. We need jobs, peace and prosperity

  42. Itisanai zvenyu nharo ikoko, nhasi rate riri pachii tirove zvedu high rate. Zanu PF ichitonga kudai tichirova zvedu high rate kumunhu wese be it MDC or Zanu PF. Mese kungokurovai pasi petsoka chete.

  43. I wonder, why registering conditions,for the dialogue which tries and begs for the removal of sanctions….Do it yourself (DIY).

  44. Comment…ini zii zvangu

  45. Comment…ini zii zvangu

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