Our govt has become a national security threat: JB

FORMER war veterans leader Jabulani Sibanda thinks President Robert Mugabe’s government is showing all the signs of a failed State and the country is tottering on the brink of disintegration. NewsDay senior reporter Richard Chidza (ND) caught up with Sibanda (JS), who did not mince his words over the treatment of war veterans following last week’s abortive gathering in Harare.

Below are excerpts:

ND: You were expelled from Zanu PF for insinuating that President Robert Mugabe’s power had been usurped in a “bedroom coup”. Now First Lady Grace has declared she is in-charge, do you feel vindicated?

JS: The country’s Constitution is very clear on who holds power and where they draw such power.

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Jabulani Sibanda

I am not aware if there is a part of the Constitution which says anybody aside from the two Vice-Presidents can run the country at any given time. Not even his [Mugabe] twin if he had one, let alone a wife.

Zimbabwe, as a country, is under threat of disintegration. Every State is premised on the three pillars, the Executive, judiciary and legislature — Parliament and the judiciary are holding their own.

They are performing their functionsj although not to satisfaction or levels required.

However, the Executive arm of government has failed to carry out its mandate of protecting citizens’ rights.

Our country is in danger of an ethnic upheaval and disintegration and this is coming from careless statements by high ranking members of the Executive.

The government has failed to keep the country together and its senior members use party rallies to make ethnic pronouncements. We now hear of Karangas, Zezurus and their capacity to lead or not.

Our government has become a national security threat, a danger to the very existence of our nation-state more than anything else we have ever seen.

ND: But who is to blame for this state of affairs?

JS: Mugabe cannot take the blame alone. He is 92 and, in any case, he could not be asked to look after cattle in a rural setting.

Grace has been there and given privilege to act above the VPs. They invited her and used her to get rid of (former Vice-President Joice) Mujuru and to say things they were uncomfortable saying.

But it must be understood that the First Lady is not an official function. It is an honour and she is not even a senior member of the party and certainly not above the VPs.

ND: You were part of the Zanu PF campaign machinery prior to the 2013 election and were aware of his age. Right?

JS: True. I campaigned for him in 2013 aware of his age. The idea was to use the victory in a free and fair election and the time before 2018 to stabilise both the party and State.

Our aim was to use this period we are in to reconstruct the party ideologically and structurally. Mugabe is generally a victim of abuse, but you cannot discount the fact that privately, he ascribes to these things

The First Family is the most hated group of people in the country. People ask what is happening, but there is little some of us can do. My life is under judicial management. I have a pending case.

I report to police regularly and my passport was confiscated, but ordinary people continue to plead for intervention everywhere we go.

ND: There are rumours you have been approached to go back to Zanu PF?

JS: Zanu PF’s constitution was violated in my case. I was never given a chance to state my case and I believe the party owes me an apology.

But still, yes I can confirm that some people have approached me. They are coming in the dead of night. There are people in Zanu PF who feel even Mujuru was ill-treated and think there is a chance to work together.

A chance that we could go back to the party, but my principle is that people in leg-irons do not negotiate.

I have a standing court order against Zanu PF. Just before the congress in 2014, there was an order to stop me from going anywhere near their functions. Although it was meant to be effective to a particular time and place, I have a feeling it still stands.

ND: But are you willing to consider their offer?

JS: I will reason with anybody for the sake of my country. But the question is better answered by Zimbabweans, the odd 14 million of us.

I am with the people now but do they still see their future through Zanu PF lenses? Do they approve of Zanu PF activities and the executive?

ND: What do you think of the First Lady’s comments about the military?

JS: The case leaves a lot of questions than answers. Was the army involved in a dodgy operation that went wrong? Why did the director of military intelligence request that the case be heard in-camera? Was it one of those operations later to be blamed on the opposition, as has happened before? What is it that the army does not want the public to know? Why was the army involved in an attack on a citizen’s property and how many such attacks have happened without public knowledge?

It is a clear illustration of the conflict within the different arms of the Executive, signs of a failing State. But most importantly, it is the third force we have referred to before. When the right time comes, we will say more.

ND: The police attack on war veterans in Harare last Thursday has no precedence. What is your view?

JS: This is not the first attack on freedom fighters. The first was failure to be recognised by a government they laid their lives to give birth to for 17 years after Independence.

Many died without this recognition, it was an economic, psychological and physical attack. There are those that died during the struggle, who gave their lives for the freedom of this country through a general one-man one-vote poll.

They were aware of imminent death, but they loved their country more. There is the other group among these two-thirds of Zipra combatants who were killed during Gukurahundi.

They died in shock after watching the very guns they had used to free the country turned against them.

Some died during the Mozambican campaign, where we now have affidavits to the effect that there were orders to make sure any Zipra combatant does not return alive if there was a chance.

If you believe that the MDC-T won elections through votes from cantonment areas, then you will believe we have the affidavits I am talking about.

ND: But what does this mean?

JS: These are indications that Zanu PF has severed itself from the responsibilities expected of a liberation movement and now represents completely opposite interests.

These war veterans sacrificed their lives to remove the British South Africa Police to replace it with the Zimbabwe Republic Police, only to get the same vile treatment from their creation.

War veterans must mobilise for a meeting of former executive members and the current leadership.

The extended executive must then call for a meeting and invite the Commander Defence Forces Constantine Chiwenga and the two Vice-Presidents Emmerson Mnangagwa and Phelekezela Mphoko to address them on the state of the republic, independence and the motives of the country’s leadership as well as events in their party. I would urge Cde Chris Mutsvangwa to call for this meeting.

ND: What is your advice to Zimbabweans given the current situation?

JS: I ask our people to remain calm. They should not allow tribalists to divide them. Things have got to change, but everyone must take part and engage. They have to engage because our country is at crossroads.

Our future has to be protected and we have a mandate to prevent the country from turning into a Libya or Syria.

Most of our people have not taken part in elections because they have a feeling their vote does not count. Our people must now engage because Zimbabwe is under threat from the Executive.

25 Responses to Our govt has become a national security threat: JB

  1. nehanda Nyakasikana February 22, 2016 at 7:30 am #

    JS: These are indications that Zanu PF has severed
    itself from the responsibilities expected of a
    liberation movement and now represents completely
    opposite interests.

    It’s all because the war vets themselves have narrow partisan interests and zero care about the nation and future. even after such treatment we still hear statements of loyalty to rgm he he he one centre of power we are behind you blablabla. war vets will continue to be abused by this crook

  2. Qawe laMaqawe February 22, 2016 at 7:34 am #

    First time JB speaks sense, I wish he could have been with people early when he was still part of the gravy train.

    • comrade zvichapera gire February 22, 2016 at 5:09 pm #

      jabu was never in any gravy

  3. Sagitarr February 22, 2016 at 8:10 am #

    Zimbabweans have in general, always been calm. The danger comes from unstable individuals like this JS character. Rushing from one extreme to another, tied into personality cults, “willing to die” for an individual, suppressing the “one man one vote” right when it suits them. No JS you were never part “of the people” you were against the people.

    Just like all those now talking about “people first”, “citizens’ rights”, poverty and the need for economic progress BUT having been cushioned inside the very same system at the beneficial end for an entire generation. Only fools can listen to such people and clap trap…they are the worst lot – deceitful, backstabbers, diabolical and mercenary.

    • RuffoG February 22, 2016 at 9:54 am #

      Thank you. I couldn’t have said it better myself

    • Bigman February 22, 2016 at 10:05 am #

      well said cde, I don’t know why a lot of Zimbabweans don’t see this. these guys cnt be trusted, they betrayed us once,twice, thrice……and they shall continue doing so in order to serve personal interests.

    • kitsi February 22, 2016 at 10:26 am #

      100% with you there!!! Couldnt have said it any better myself. He didnt even reject the idea of him rejoining zanu as long as they apologize to him and give him a proper disciplinary hearing.

      then you hear someone saying Tsvangirai should be led by these Zanu rejects!! NEVER!!!

  4. Patriot February 22, 2016 at 9:10 am #

    JS talking sense

  5. maita February 22, 2016 at 9:20 am #

    “I am with the people now” so JB all along you were with a selfish cabal who have turned Zimbabwe into their bedroom.

  6. Mukanya February 22, 2016 at 9:41 am #

    JB or JS is a murderer ,, recall his deeds in the past elections.

  7. sssss February 22, 2016 at 10:21 am #

    jb is telling us that he is still zanu period. as long as he still protects mugabe to this day, he has not changed. next time you have a chance to talk to him ask him if he still believes tsvangirai is a puppet of the west. the answer will show his true colours.

  8. Makandi February 22, 2016 at 11:15 am #

    Dr. I want to bring to the attention of the President, Cde Robert Gabriel Mugabe, Dr. Grace Mugabe, Saviour Kasukuwere and Police Commissioner Augustine Chihuri to thoroughly investigate CST Hove stationed at Makamba in Hwedza. i was totally shocked by his utterances when he was on the road block. its unfortunate that i didn’t have a recording phone. He denigrated the President’s celebration to be held in Masvingo saying it was better to give him the money than sponsoring that event. i am not a politician but i was deeply touched by his speeches which was totally misguided. i tried to check his number which appeared like 070 624C. This constable has a very bad influence which should not be swallowed at all by any Zimbabwean even a neutral person. Was he properly vetted when he was included in the police force. i wonder. The place is Goto Rusape. Please, Please, Please, this man must be investigated well.

    • Monica February 22, 2016 at 1:14 pm #

      Makandi today you seem to be busy with this nonsense bootlicking of yours. I have seen this message somewhere today. Your stupid president doesn’t even know that you exist, you are just wasting your time. Why don’t you do something productive with your life rather than praising a dictator. Leave the constable alone please.

    • mudavanhu February 22, 2016 at 5:01 pm #

      why should he be investigated by erring his views, freedom of speech in Zimbabbwe is lacking. Shoud i not say what i do not like about the president. Is he God that i should not speak against him.

  9. Xingxin February 22, 2016 at 11:50 am #

    zvine basa rei kuti anoshorodza mabiko akadaro.

  10. MaVictoria February 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm #

    wezhira haufe wakaluma. you thought now was yo time to rule after destroying the same country you want to rule through your warped wezhira nepotism and corruption. investigate corruption in parastatals since 1980 and you will trace 90% of it to these so called mavitori (maQueen Victoria). foolish tribal pride is your undoing

  11. Musona February 22, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

    Sour grapes. What an idiot. At the forefront propping up a dictator now saying country is under threat. The grapes are now sour. His views do not matter. The BSAP under white rule were very professional contrary to what this moron is saying about vile treatment. Lying fool.

  12. truth February 22, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

    jabu spare us your nonsense,you think we so gullible?

  13. Goronga February 22, 2016 at 6:45 pm #

    Makandi apedza kuvhiya mbudzi here ndave nenzara

  14. Goronga February 22, 2016 at 6:47 pm #

    Makandi apedza kuvhiya mbudzi here tave nenzara

  15. Tanetanazvo February 22, 2016 at 9:02 pm #

    Are you the same JB who was moving around intimidating people, threatening them with death if they did not vote for ZANU-PF?

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  17. Robert February 22, 2016 at 10:11 pm #

    Something is terribly wrong with the PF crew. They are suddenly criticizing the system they helped to establish and later spitted from. They even filed court challenges against that moribund system. It’s a shame. You’re nolonger marketable cdes Jabu, Didy, Rugs, Joyie and Bhasi. Viva Tsvangirai

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  19. Nehana February 24, 2016 at 12:49 pm #

    Some guys were only born to fight in the bush and not to govern. JB should just keep quite and enjoy his warvet allowance.

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