Exclusive: Mxolisi Ncube speaks on being exposed as Baba Jukwa

Baba Jukwa- the Facebook vigilante- assumed the role of a mole within President Robert Mugabe’s Zanu PF party, purporting to be fighting for the truth. He became popular prior to the July 2013 election, garnering up to 300,000 likes within a month.

 

Since the formation of the page which, by virtue of it having almost half a million followers, is the most popular in Zimbabwe,  Baba Jukwa has been a fascinating, yet mysterious shadowy character .

Yesterday an online publication newzimbabwe.com, published a story in which it alleged that hackers had managed access Baba Jukwa’s email. The site  gave links to a YouTube video that  showed how this was, as reported, achieved.

There is a link to Google drive archive that contains tonnes of emails showing the people behind the administration of the page.

Two people alleged to be running the page are journalists Mxolisi Ncube and Mkululi Chimoio. NewsDay’s Online Editor, John Mokwetsi (JM) in an exclusive interview spoke to Mxolisi Ncube (MN) on the allegation through a Whatsapp Q&A.

JM: Are you Baba Jukwa?

MN: You know I would not lie if I were. I can give you proof that I am not?

JM: The country woke up to what appeared like genuine email details that link you and your friend to the famous FB political character. How do you defend that?

MN: I have nothing to do with Baba Jukwa my brother and as I said, I can give you proof to that. If you were here (South Africa), I would open my Facebook account and show you communication between me and Baba Jukwa, but I can still email those to you. You can have someone you trust here come and see the chats themselves.

JM: Why do you think the state would target you?

MN: I think they have been out to get us because we used to interview him (Baba Jukwa), so they thought we knew him, but we wish we did. On two occasions my emails and Facebook accounts were hacked. But let me tell you this now, nothing ever links me to that Jukwa character, though my Yahoo account suddenly got the Baba Jukwa name when you send stuff to it.

JM: That email showed you’re named as Baba Jukwa when you sent out emails to colleagues and friends. Did you close it after you discovered that it had been compromised?

MN: I did not close it because I never thought anyone would believe I was linked to that. It was a long time back. Last year. What happened is that BJ sent a bulk email introducing himself to international journalists and underneath was a link which I clicked and that’s when it all started. I think I still have the email as well.

JM: There is talk that you once worked for the state as a policeman and therefore better positioned to have a clear line to some vital secrets using your network.

MN: I did work for the state as a PR sergeant working in Bulawayo. I never had access to state information and if there is any CIO who knows me and can attest to that, let them come out and say it. I was a reporter with the in-house Outpost magazine

JM: Why do you think the state would want to frame you now when the impact of the page has severely gone down and The Zimbabwean (Newspaper that Mxolisi works for) not really selling in Zimbabwe.

MN: To be honest, I wish I could answer that question my brother, but I cannot because the state itself knows better.

JM: Have you seen the dossiers that show your email and your phone number used as alternative security on the Gmail account? What is your comment?

MN: I have not seen that my brother, but anyone could do that and since I am not Baba Jukwa, I would not have known he did that because I did not and still do not have access to BJ’s email. I have two email accounts and they support each other. I think BJ should him/herself give you reasons as to why he did that.

JM: Have received threats since the story was published yesterday?

MN: Not yet, only an abnormally high and at times suspicious number of Facebook friend requests and messages of solidarity from friends and others shocked and in need of clarification. Even if I were to receive threats, this would not faze me because that has been a constant feature in my life.

JM: How is your family taking this? And what actions are you taking as you claim this is job done to frame you?

MN: My family is shocked, but personally, I don’t know how to react. One minute I am shocked and the other I am feeling like a hero because I really idolised Baba Jukwa. To be honest, I still do. I am also planning a criminal defamation case and civil suit against the publication that went to town without even giving me a right of reply. As I said, I can prove beyond reasonable doubt that I am as in the dark about BJ as you are.

JM: You now live in South Africa and why did you leave Zimbabwe in the first place?

MN: I was fleeing the same persecution that seems to still be following me.

JM: Could you please be specific on the persecution?

MN: I did a story that about an alleged assassination attempt on Dumiso Dabengwa, when he had moved to join Simba Makoni. That, coupled with Emmerson Mnangagwa’s allegation that Zanu PF had lost the elections in March 2008 because of The Zimbabwean, made me one of their key targets.

Again, they should have based their story on my past in the ZRP. Some senior officers called telling me to leave Zimbabwe immediately because three people were on their way to get me. I had been abducted and released without harm previously, so I knew better than staying.

JM: Thank you for granting us this interview

MN: Thanks a lot my brother

56 Comments

  1. I thnk Extra Kwavose is not getting our full support vanogona vapfana avaa

  2. This guy is lying man. He is jukwa he must just tell the truth. He’s writing style is even the same like jukwas

  3. Pmuchaziva kuti jukwa I project ya Mugabe najonso ndopamuchaziya kuti Makandiwa haasi Mwari

    1. Prophet Makandiwa vapinda papi??musoro wako iwe dzoro!!!

      1. chokwadi wekumafuta

        iwe uri munhu wekwamakandiwa here unotuka vamwe kudaro? Nhai minana?????

    2. Noone ever said Prophet Makandiwa was God. We are discussing the issue of the identity of Baba Jukwa, and you bring in other people’s names. People who have nothing to do with Baba Jukwa, and who are not part of this discussion. How does the name Makandiwa become relevant to this discussion?

  4. Ndiudzeio wehama jukwa wacho aimboita nezvei

    1. @Stanlinks i was about to ask the same question.Haazi aitamba bhora here?lol

  5. Who cares?dat doesnt food on our tables

  6. pane ane small pin charger here muno

  7. Unotoshaya kuti zviri kumbofamba sei

  8. ma1 ka aya, Unotoshaya kuti zviri kumbofamba sei

  9. Pfutseeki wako iwee Dzorayivote . Makandiwa apinda papi ipapa . Une mweya wetsvina. Xhaaaaa. Stupid.

  10. “but
    let me tell you this now, nothing ever
    links me to that Jukwa character,
    though my Yahoo account suddenly
    got the Baba Jukwa name when you
    send stuff to it.”

    lol this nigga starts acting now!

    As for me i’ve been chatting to MKHULULI since yesterday and from what i’ve gathered, MKHULULI is baba jukwa and after telling him not to stop spreading the word, his answer was “THANK YOU”

    1. Go to hell mani u idiot !

  11. “but
    let me tell you this now, nothing ever
    links me to that Jukwa character,
    though my Yahoo account suddenly
    got the Baba Jukwa name when you
    send stuff to it.”

    lol this nigga starts acting now!

    1. @nigga lee last time i checked nigger was Derogatory term used on a black man by the white man.

  12. just here to read comments

    I can’t get any logic coz anyone can be a suspect on a curtain issues you don’t have a solid proof that he’s baba jukwa…and that can happen to anyone.And this guy you are claiming to be baba jukwa he’s a journalist at the Zimbabwean how can he publish such a bullshit and he writes about soccer baba jukwa should be a Zimbabwe based not even outside Zim get your facts right I wish he can take some serious offense charges on you

  13. Akonwa haaoneki padare. U hv been exposed frm yo fake cover waiti unosvikepi wakahwanda in ths era of technology?

    1. Hapana kuti era of technology apa. Iye ndiye akapusa ungaisa real contact details plus to keep secret email conversations.

  14. Mxolisi kamama! Gore rino kachasura chando!

  15. Kedu Mxolisi kamama! Gore rino kachasura chando!

  16. Rina manyanga hariputirwe uye chinamaninji chagara hachifambisi kuitura kuti mavara acho aonekwe.ndambakuudazwa ndiye blaz akazoonekwa neropa pahuma

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  17. Ko vanhu vamwari vanotuka kudaro kuti stupid?…apo pangonzi Makandiwa ndopakupai cheeky so,worship God guys,not that fellow

    1. Well said my bro! Makandiwa wacho akosheswa kudarika mwari.

  18. THIS GUY IS A CHIEF CULPRIT WATCHA’ YO STEP BOYEE’,YOU CAN FOOL ONE BUT NOT ALL.

  19. dambudzo marechera

    This is just a story about a story just like a movie people act or play roles. Role kana script ya bj yakapera so what

  20. Kangaroo court, kill him first and then find out the truth. Africa still living in the dark ages of natural stupidity. Will take hundreds of years to catch up with 1st world civilisation……. if ever at all. Jukwa run, the Tokoloshe is behind you with his cousin the famous Goblin……

  21. blazo mandispaka…..sakanhasi mabatwa and you now deny…mhosva yako ndeyekuti wakazoita makaro…kubiira vabereki mari dzavo…….and to those Makandiwa followers i question your christainty your mouth is full of curses when the word says bless those who curse you…..what realy are you being taught at your church

    1. Well said my bro! Makandiwa wacho akosheswa kudarika mwari.

  22. Iyaa saka ma 1,ndiye baba Jukwa mupfana uyu,but haaite haaite!

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  24. comrade mwana wevhu

    new technology yamunochemera waiona haina favour. Batai munhu makamboonepi munhu anobvuma mhosva.

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  25. This idiotic baba jukwa thing was a project mean’t to hoodwink equally idiotic opposition parties. The refutes that he is baba jukwa, threatens to sue and then at the same time admits his love for baba jukwa, he is just senseless, saka akabuda ari sajei.

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  27. Unotoshaya kuti zvinhu zvacho zvirikumbofamba sei? Ana Baba jukwa….lol. Vana vaMakandiwa makuti bhowa. Inga wani judgement yard yakaitwa LooL

  28. Minana 1 mbutu yako!

  29. Baba Jukwa, baba Jukwa… Baba Jukwa…. I mean you baba jukwa why…… ??

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  31. You are need to have grains of brain..the underlying factor is account was hacked…there is nothing special about changing email senders name or even having your account once hacked sending out incrimating stuff.. if the hackers knew the guys name they would redirect password recovery to his emails and mobile. What folks here must do is identify the hackers and establish more info. Why does the min of info quickly validate such info…

  32. pasichigare vaiveko

    Unobva washaya kuti zvirikumbofambasei?
    who was affected? what were the effects?

    do you think only the two make the syndicate? If the answer is yes! then try to cell them if possible, and c if posts will stop!

    who benefited from JB posts?

    If we manage to nail the JB syndicate, are we not going to open a can of worms on the ruling table?

    Will the syndicate go alone?

    what effects will that cause to the gvt?

    Is it necessary anywhere to identify muroyi mumusha? why nt only look for n’anga inogadzira musha!

    UNOBVA WASHAYA KUTI ZVIRI KUMBOFAMBA SEI?

  33. Even if the real Baba Jikwa were to be caught, what would he be charged with-espionage? And if a journalist based in South Africa can have access to sensitive state information, it means someone in Intelligence needs to be fired.

  34. How come yo account got the name BJ dont play with fire waimbomhanya now uchananaira.

  35. Can the really jukwa respond before these innocent guys are murdered for nothing as usual. But go ahead Mxo bring these fools before the rule of law.

  36. ko vana vaPapa varikungotoboka toboka hanziiko ndatoshaya kuti zvikumbfamba sei

  37. tichaona mangwanya

    Honestly cyber evidence can be tempered with and it is not credible. How can the state rely on such unreliable evidence. a hacker is a criminal and can do anything to get money. So we can not judge these fellows based on this alone.

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  39. long live BJ

  40. i believe baba jukwa vari muZim coz vaiziva all the affairs happening in Zim, including some private meetings. This man a former police can not be smart enough to succeed to maintain his anonymity for this while.

  41. mbutu inonaka

    It not possible nhema idzi dzega dzega

  42. Zimboz munoshamisa. You were the ones singing praises of BJ. Now that there is trouble you are the exact same people to turn your backs and speak rubbish!!! That’s why you will forever be oppressed. Hamuna kwenyu

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