Siwela: Rebel with (out) a cause

SOME see him as a controversial politician while others view him as an eccentric tribalist driven by the nostalgia to revive King Mzilikazi’s long lost Ndebele State.

Report by Njabulo Ncube

Like him or hate him, Paul Siwela is a maverick politician who has spent time behind bars due to his eccentric ideas and sharp tongue, but he takes no prisoners. Siwela speaks passionately about his secessionist agenda, critics say it is a critical reminder of what is wrong with Zimbabwe.

They accuse Zanu PF, in power for 33 years, of failing to mould the competing tribal, racial and linguistic loyalties into a nation which citizens can proudly associate themselves with.

Siwela, the leader of the Matabeleland Liberation Organisation (MLO), said his organisation was born in 2011 as a result of the “unmet” political expectations and grievances of the people of Matabeleland since November 4, 1893 when the British colonial masters annexed Matabeleland.

“That date is significant in that it marked the time Matabeleland lost its sovereignty, independence, its gold and other mineral riches through unprovoked political and military aggression,” Siwela said in an interview at his Woodville residence in Bulawayo.

“Even after attaining independence from Britain in 1980, Matabeleland has been subjected to genocide, is facing discrimination and marginalisation on a daily basis.”

Siwela says his main objective is to attain full sovereignty and independence of the people of Matabeleland by establishing a State independent of Mashonaland. He vehemently denies that he is a tribalist or a mole paid by the State to confuse the people of Matabeleland.

Questions have been raised about Siwela’s loyalties, with some accusing him of double dipping, advising both President Robert Mugabe and Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai on the Matabeleland issue.

“As MLO we care less about what people say, but care more about our drive to reclaim our independence,” he said.

“Why would the CIO, which is controlled by Mugabe, actively help me to break-away from this colonial creation called Zimbabwe? It will be treasonous on the part of the CIO.”
He said calls for an independent State of Matabeleland were not being driven by nostalgia or tribalism.

“I don’t know what tribalism is, but what I know is that the people of Matabeleland want their own sovereignty and independence,” he said.

“For instance, since 1893 Matabeleland has not produced a Prime Minister, a Chief Justice or Judge President, the commander of the Zimbabwe Defence Forces, the Airforce, the Director-General of the CIO, the governor of the Reserve Bank, the list is endless.”

Effie Ncube, a political analyst, says as a politician, Siwela is very unorthodox in his approaches but, however, reflects the deep alienation that some people in Matabeleland feel. Despite claiming to be fighting against Mugabe in Matabeleland, Siwela says he sees the veteran ruler continuing in power until 2018.

“There is a possibility Mugabe will contest his last election in 2018,” he said. “It is then that Zanu PF will capitulate and then the independence of Matabeleland will be delivered.”

The MLO leader, together with Charles Thomas and Jonh Gazi, are accused of plotting to topple Mugabe after they allegedly distributed flyers calling for the secession of Matabeleland from the rest of the country. The trio is out on $2 000 bail and is waiting for the High Court to decide on their plea to have the case dismissed.

88 Responses to Siwela: Rebel with (out) a cause

  1. Sihle May 17, 2013 at 7:11 am #

    Kurota hakurambidzwe. Ngazviperere mubhedhirumu

    • medicsimon May 17, 2013 at 9:14 am #

      wena wule lothuvi ukhulumani

      • Ttt May 17, 2013 at 11:12 am #

        Medic i ges wange uchida kuti mushonga wekupenga unotuka munhu ne ndebele unoti hatinzwi zi tribalist remunhu iwe ndiwe hure

    • Dzakutsaku May 17, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

      The man has a point , don’t brush him aside. Listen to his facts carefully.

  2. spampa May 17, 2013 at 7:15 am #

    Siwela to tell yu truth Matebeleland does not have any leader any more but only p—ts. To be frank, if u wr genuine ngabe abantu be Matebeleland sebakulandela kudala

  3. observer May 17, 2013 at 7:56 am #

    these are the early signs of unrest, so those whose life may be afeected will be affected by a full unrest should read the signs early

  4. Patrick May 17, 2013 at 8:07 am #

    Rebellion should be suppressed by any means necessary

  5. Mr Siwela, you could be having brilliant ideas my man but your approach tends to precipitate antagonism !

    > If you have an idea, sell [market] it to others to win their goodwill and support.

    > A militant approach tends to invite a militant response.

    > The secessionist agenda propounded by Siwela is a symptom of a problem/s obtaining in our society. Powers that be and the people of our beloved Zimbabwe may brush it off at their own peril ! Lets talk about it.

    > People talk about marginalisation because they reasonably believe that the national cake is not being equitably distributed. Whether this is so is subject to debate! Lets talk about it.

    > Why are we failing to gel our nation ? Why have we seen it fit to retain tribal tags to our provinces 33 years after independence ! Matebele-land, Mashona-land, Manica-land etc.

    > There was a breakup of the mighty USSR[Soviet Union] and Yugoslavia. Consider these two case studies. Is that what we want in Zimbabwe?

    > Secession is a virus as proven in the breakup of the Soviet Union. What if Manica-land and other provinces clamour for secession ?

    > What are the alternatives to secession? Have we exhausted these?

    LETS HAVE A MATURE LEVEL HEADED DEBATE. DON’T PLAY THE TRIBAL CARD! NO INSULTS!

    • Bill1977 May 17, 2013 at 9:00 am #

      I do agree with you. Our country has problems and, in my view, reflects the immaturity of our governance rather than anything else. USA went through a civil war in the early part of their democracy and we also went on similar Squamish’s. Unfortunately for us we have drawn racial or tribal lines whenever we have a problem.

      As long as we do not gather around a purpose, we will continue pointing fingers at each other and that is the end of us. Zimbabwe is made of many tribes which can rightfully claim independence, and people of Matebeleland should understand that the whole country to an extent feels the same. I will not deny that Gukurahundi was unique brutality. Nevertheless, it should never be attributed to the Shona people but a certain party in power.

      We all know how and why Lookout Masuku died, can we then stand and accuse say Tsvangirai for that. I am drawing a line between party errors and tribal errors. Let us all remember that even during the Gukurahundi there were some Ndebele people who were involved as well on these brutalities as part of furthering their Party’s interests.

      Siwele has identified problems which we do not deny but has not thought through how and why they have happened. The easiest way to respond is to say because I hated etc. Gukurahundi was a power struggle between ZANU and ZAPU which was extended from the liberation war times. Now how can that be a problem of me, a born free?

      It’s so easy to plant a seed of hate and discontent to an extent that we will fight each other. The Manyika’s lost Feruka Refinery, Lost the HO of Forestry Commission, Losing Diamonds but should they seek secession as well? Look, our government was formed by militants who felt threatened in the early parts and somehow even now. The response has been to centralise everything in fear of rebellion. Hypothetically if this government is removed some of those tendencies could die a natural death. My message is that let’s give our democracy time and work hard to remain together so that we push it to mature.

      I expect the Siwela and the younger generation to be rational about these issues and create a future for this country. Being separatist is not a solution, we all know that. I hope Siwela is not doing so for getting funding which is sometimes is the case with most of our NGOs.

  6. chellas May 17, 2013 at 8:11 am #

    siwela wants to be seen by Americans as couragious to get sponsorship for his pipedream project.thats how Yugoslavia was destroyed and hundrd of thousands were killed by these Yankies supporting the seccesion of Kosovo.soon after ,the world was told that in Kosovo,in one shovelful of soil you are likeky to get palladium,gold,urenium,einsternium….the list is long.i tel u,Siwela ones to start another war.hondo ineropa,usatanga hondo.for saying matabelend list is soverinity in 1893 is to be crazy.was it a land the Ndebeles brought from KwaZulu or KwaNdebele.here is a very very dangerous humanbeing.watchout.

    • vusi May 17, 2013 at 12:40 pm #

      Uyanya msathanyoko manje ucabanga ukuthi uthusa bani imbuzi zakini.

      • VISIONOMEGA May 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm #

        pfutseke makauya nevhu kubva kwaMnambithi kuKZN tibvire dzokerai kuSouth Africa monopiwa ivhu nevakoma venyu makwara evanhu anotya kurwa ndozvamakatizira Chaka izvozvo

        • Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 7:17 pm #

          @VISIONOMEGA
          Wena weza nomhlaba all the way from Burundi????
          Ungabohlanya. If you have a problem with uSiwela ne Politics zakhe, deal with Siwela and leave the rest of uMthwakazi alone.

          Bloody Shona Gukurahundi tribalistic idiot!!!!

  7. tsotso May 17, 2013 at 8:23 am #

    this Siwela is dangerous and poisonous to the peace of our great nation beware he must be tamed

  8. izo May 17, 2013 at 8:32 am #

    Siwela might seem to be day dreaming today but what his crying for will one day haunt zimbabwe,take manicaland and matebeland issues seriously,thats what lead to fight for zim independence.in rwanda tutsi are the minority bt they are in charge now

    • harare May 17, 2013 at 3:57 pm #

      hahahahahahaha…….

    • mtaka LOBHENGULA May 20, 2013 at 7:11 pm #

      thanks for being a visionary,i foresee disaster on the part of zim i don’t feel zimbabwean and your folk in all gvt institutions invokes that feeling everytime i meet one of them

  9. izo May 17, 2013 at 8:36 am #

    1893 there was no zimbabwe,the land which some are claiming is a white man creation and the first settlers on this land according to whites man history are khoisan mashona you are lodgers as well plus majority of you are mozambican descents

    • shame May 17, 2013 at 12:28 pm #

      @ izo

      There is no point in attemting to re-write history mfana Idzo. It does not change anything. The Ndebele came from Ndabambi Kraal,near where the Orange river starts. That was in the early 19th century and they were seceeding from their Zulu king Shaka. These folks therefore by domicile and birth,are Zulu subjects. Does it make sense to try impressing mature minds that whilst Mzilikhazi was kraal head at Ndabambi of KwaZulu, the land between Limpopo, Zambezi, Okavango Delta, and Shangani River was vacant -without inhabitants? Are you saying the whites are liers to observe that whilst Mzilikhazi was at Ndabambi Kraal, the Khoi-San Mashona lived in the land now named Matabeleland? Such a denial is foolish!
      History correctly documents how Mzilikhazi crossed the Limpopo due north, ravaging the land, kidnapping, raping, enslaving and skull-bashing inorder to settle in the Matonjeni hills. Siwela has no conscience and shame to open his mouth and say this land lost its fredom in 1893 when in truth it was annexed by Mzilikhazi by hook and crook around 1860 or so. If he has any shame at all and can read and write, why doesn’t he visit Hwange National Meseum so that he gets enlightenment on the migration history of the Nambya people and how they were displaced from Matonjeni and trekked north fleeing from the Monster Mzilikhazi? Its also recorded that Mzilikhazi attempted to annex Barotseland to the west before king Khama overwhelmed him with british firepower, otherwise Siwela could also be bussy misleading the Matabili colonialists that Barotseland is their land. You folks have no shame at all. You and the British are scavengers fighting over the percievd carcas of an animal that yet lives.

      There is no such thing as Mozambican Descendents in Zimbabwe Mr Izi. Maybe thats why the Ndebele people, your kin are often accused of illiteracy.Do you only read books about how to disobey legitimate rule over your heads, rustle cattle, rape harpless women and occupy harpless people’s lands? Is that the history you have been taught all these days from Mzilikhazi, through Lobengula, Nkomo (they say he even raped Nkala’s sister which was the mother of Gukurahundi), Gaigusu and now this Siwela half-wit? Ngikubetshele mfanami.The border between Mozambique and Zimbabwe was drawn in Berlin and approved by Bismark in Europe whilst the inhabitants of the lands on either side where there. The border crossed them, and nobody crossed it. Idiot! At least have the courage to look up the nearest geography Africa map-you will see that on either side of the Moza-Zimbabwe there are twin provinces called Manica-implying the border divided an entire people living peacefully. if you dig up the origin of this people, kindly be informed that these people, were (1) one-time subjects of the Mapungubwe kingdom (headquartered at Dzimbahwe) which stretched as far south as the Orange river (KuGuruuswa wakambokunzwa?) and as far north-east as Sena in the indian ocean (port Sofala) (2) subjects of Dzimbahwe/ Rozvi state (headquartered at Dzimbahwe again) and (3) Munhumutapa State headquarterd much at Dzimbahwe though king had migrated to the North (KuChipuriro/Guruve) which stretched as far west as Okavango delta, and north to Zambezi, and east to the indfian ocean. You are aware that the savage Mzilikhazi annexed the western half and his carnivorous son Rubhengura Gukuramachangani (leader of the Shangaan -In the Manica provinces Rubhengura is oft confused and associated with the Shangaan savages who settled in the south eastern districts )was in the process of encroaching due-east and north and had crossed the shangaani into present day Midlands when Cecil John Rhodes beat him at the colonial game and went as far as Nyasaland. That my friend , is the correct history that Siwela should be placing before the Matabili people before asking them to follow him. Uyacabanga kuthi uSiwela uzafundisa icorrect history leIi Lizwe izihlobo zakheZesiNdebele ,abantu bazamlandela ngokuthula? Truely speaking, his tribe’s, is is a shameful history. To be honest, the shona people are a very kind and accormodative lot. How they manage to let you continue living in their land after all that Mzilikhazi and RuBhenura did to them, continue letting you rebel against their rule, form parties on their land over their land, convene meetings over their land and continue to appropriate their land as you wish is a mystery of this day. In RSA, they burn foreigners with plastics and even the police can afford to tie a foreigner to the fender of their vehicles and drag you in the dust at 80km/hr until the lights of life turn off and you give up the ghost. A reminder that you don’t belong! And the international community doesn’t even say shit! No, not even the British, or the French, or the Hotentots of Holland or the Italians commiserate with adventurists into other people’s lands. Not after the lessons they learned after Bismark had partitioned Africa and parcelled it out to them for free. Why not ask the Europeans for advice rather thasn keep provoking the hut that gives you shelter? Isn’t that foolishness? because if that house one day decides to collapse, you will be out in the cold,and dark night by your lonesome self and no-one will give a damn to the cries of a fool who curses the hut of his host!

      • Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 7:24 pm #

        @Shame

        Can you please spare the public your Shona Satanic verses. Long Nehanda Gukurahundi Shona fire place stories that have no relevance? I long told you to get the land, women and cattlenthat you have been crying about for a century but you done nothing about this. Go ahead and get those stolen women bloody Shona Gukurahundi idiot.

        I suppose you are also a Century old since you claim to know a lot about these things. You had first hand experience of the stolen land, cattle and women arsehole.

    • harare May 17, 2013 at 3:58 pm #

      hahahahaahh…..yes we are so what

  10. Zingizi May 17, 2013 at 8:40 am #

    He would have had lots of support if most of Matebeleland supported him in an independance drive. The fact is most of the Ndebele are split between the two MDCs because most of them see reason in a nationalistic approach to Zimbabwean politics. He therefore somewhat appeals to the disenchanted. How is an independent Matebeleland going to survive economically even with bits and pieces from the midlands? I like Paul for his boldness and courage to speak and I am not Ndebele. Is he tribalist? Like him I do not know what that means but if you are from Masvingo (another province like Matebeleland that is completely marginilised and forgotten) and Manicaland (where diamonds and other resources benefit a few in Harare including well connected people from other provinces) where similarly resources are collected and are controlled by central government and the redistribution of such resources benefits only Harare and the surrounding provinces, then you will find that the same thing that drives Paul Siwela affects those other two provinces as well. That goes for our politics too which tends to benefit the same places like the economy. There needs to be a correction of this situation by those in power or those who will come into power if we are to avoid a situation where all of the provinces and regions start to not only feel but also to want self governance and self rule to benefit their areas. This whole thing is potentially explosive.

  11. Codza tii May 17, 2013 at 8:50 am #

    Thats the very same brains of lookout and bro dumy of deviding zim.Siwela is very dangerous to be on this planet.Too satanic to cause cantankerous divisions amongst zimbabweans.Noticing a very possible defeat of tsvangs by mdara,it might be onother projected figure of the worst west.Silently rest in peace or else you will never enjoy peace at all.

  12. izo May 17, 2013 at 8:54 am #

    Zingizi thats a very constructive point,most politicians assist their immediate family members not because you frm same tribe with him or her.if you block the motorcade even if you speak the shona ya nehanda uno mamiswa

  13. mkhalanga May 17, 2013 at 9:13 am #

    I feel that Mr Siwela is right, despite the fact that I don’t want a country built on tribal grounds. I’m a minority within a minority. I’m Khalanga, indigenous Zimbabwean but based in Matebeleland. I tell you that we had suffering and pain inflicted on us by fellow Zimbabweans championed by Zanu. We wish that a different Zimbabwe could rise, a new leadership elected, a proper reconciliation process put in place and compensation paid to victims.

    If this fails unfortunately Matebeleland will eventually support Mthwakazi, as we have been suppressed, maimed and marginalized for a long time now.

    • Gandaga May 17, 2013 at 9:38 am #

      Kalangas are Shonas who were colonised and forced to drop their language and culture by the Nguni

      • shame May 17, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

        @Gandaga
        Agreed but just one little point of correction, Mzilikhazi and his band of assegai-totting carnivores are not Nguni, these are ZULU cattle-rustling renegades. There are no misgivings for calling a spade a spade.
        The Nguni tribes (Often qouted as Ngoni Tribes in history texts), you will be surprised to find out, migrated from Orange free state (KuGuruuswa), crossed Limpopo River (approximately at Thuli) due north, passed through the Rozvi empire (peacefully without war, whence othere settled unto this day) and went as far north as Malawi. Originally, the Nguni (Ngoni) are Venda speaking people and they cover countries like Namibia, Angola, RSA North West (Limpopo Province), Zimmbabwe. The Nguni, are part of the Shona ancestry, and were subjects of the Mapungubwe state. Take note that when you hear some shona people say, takabva kuGuruuswa, these are the remnant of the Ngoni Tribe’s great trake due north. And Guruuswa is Orange free state. Kindly compare these language sounds and meanings. (1) Tshiya(V) vs. Siya(S): leave(E) (2) pansi(V) vs.(pasi) down(E) (3) sezulu (V) vs.(zezuru): on high (E) (4) hamba (V)vs. famba(S) move (E) and so on. Its surprising isn’t it, how this life turns out to be? Some nguni originally Venda, who have become hardcore shona Zezuru (simply means people who live on higher ground as indeed cental and north east is high ground) actually lived side by side with Mzilikhazi’s grand parents whos igloos were just across the orange river at Ndabambi Kraal, and they hunted together on the same lands before they ran away from Shaka Zulu ahead of Soshangane, and the Butcher Mzilikhazi. Here in Zimbabwe their grandchildren are at each others’ throats playing the tribal cards and accusing Mzilikhazi’s grand children of cattle-rustling , rape and land colonialism (lets say-e-e-h the sin of late emigration from Guruuswa, and sojourning by assegai force! What a laugh! This big life! Its so huge you can’t contain it in one piece! But one thing to their credit, the Nguni (Shona ancestry) and the Shangaani (Machangani of Gaza provinces) to a greater extent, had more suttle and more civilised philosophies in their exodus; raping none, butchering none, stealing no-one’s cattle 9sorry, the Changaani stole Shaka’s cattle). Mzilikhazi had nothing to do with civilisation, even unto this day , the grand-children of these three migrants have different philosophies to civilisation. Some melt into the crowd, blend well, and remain suttle by their forefathers’s standards, others are hard-headed savage niggers, prefering to even carry their knobkerries, and assegais in public transport vehicles and even to work! huh, this life, ntshxo, such a shame!

        • N. Sithole May 17, 2013 at 4:59 pm #

          Revisit your history about Nguni people my learned friend. You sound to be someone who is well grounded in history and a sound education. Your only problem is that you are a tribalist to the core.

          • shame May 17, 2013 at 5:50 pm #

            No, no, no Sithole Muchangani, I ain’t here nor there on tribalism. Truth is I find it difficult to keep quiet when people throw tribal sentiments where they do not belong. I am moved to volunteer enlightenment. I donate the hiden facts. Mind you, no lies. Just the truth. Its not tribalistic to keep on reminding someone that his folks came here on foot, and the cattle inheritence lowing in their cattle-pens is ill-gotten wealth. That, is writen in history books, and that my friend Sithole, grandson of Soshangane, is the undeniable truth. For example, when your own great grandfather Shoshangane left KwaZulu, his hands were not empty. He also had shaka’s cattle. Do you deny that? Shanga then dispatched one of his fiercest head hunters Dingaane, to bring Soshangane’s head. Boy you are lucky to be alive today, and thank God for maintaining a belt of Tsetseflies in the Gaza regions of Moza and Zimbabwe along Limpopo river. They say Dingaane’s impis died of sleeping seekness before catching up with you folks. Otherwise, there would have been nothing remaining of Soshangane’s outfit to talk about today. Dingaane’s next assignment from Soshangane’s capture was to head-hunt Mzilikhazi and this one-was under strict instructions to bring to Shaka alive. Thank God Dingane was defeated for you by tsetseflies and his head was chopped off by Shaka for failing. That saved two Zulu renegade tribes. At least all these things are all over african literature libraries. Is repeating these things tribalism?

            You may not like my calling Mzilikhazi a skull-basher and common petty cattle-thief, please forgive my dicta, it may be slightly gross, but the issue of bayoneting harpless folks, taking cattle without barter trading anything, raping other men’s women and settling in Matonjeni without seeking permission from the Karanga Lands Officer are all issues discussed at length in the history books. What is it you want me to do. Tell me. Hold my mouth whilst some folks are lying that the area called matabeleland was colonised beggining in 1893? Kana ndiwewo Wasu, unoona zvichibviroitawo ere?

            Thanx for the reminder to re-visit the Nguni story. Next time, I will be talking about the Mapungubwe State and the in-land migration of the Nyanza people who trekked southwards from Yemen. I will then talk of how such Bantu tribes like the Swahili, and the Nguni came to be. But for the time being, keep in mind the Guruuswa issue. That one is 100% correct. Whilst everyone else could have come from Guruuswa peacefully, your folks Sithole, The Changani came from Swaziland in a huff, driving cattle-loot from Shaka’s pens with head-hunters close to their heals. Lets all thank God this weekend if we still remember to go to church, for keeping tsetseflies alive. infact, may we kindly ask the creator to multiply tsetseflies all over the place because history has proven that these little tartly flies are man’s best friend in times of distress.The changani folks’ saviour.praise be to God On High.

    • harare May 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm #

      i respect you for saying you kalanga because there are no ndebeles in zimbabwe only kalangas who are our blood the shonas so we should not fight really .but right the wrongs of the past and move forward,there are very few ndebeles in zim less than 60 000.majority of kalangas go around saying we are ndebeles at least you are a man

  14. tongai May 17, 2013 at 9:17 am #

    `Siwela you are not true son,your dream of causing tribalism in Zimbabawe will never work.where did you originate from.go and make your mark there not here.Zimbabwe is neither for shona or ndebeles but for Zimbabweans

    • tongai May 17, 2013 at 9:19 am #

      `Siwela you are not true son,your dream of causing tribalism in Zimbabawe will never work.where did you originate from.go and make your mark there not here.Zimbabwe is neither for shona nor ndebeles but for Zimbabweans

  15. medicsimon May 17, 2013 at 9:19 am #

    amashona aso ndawo yenu leyi u originate from Zanzibar, one day we wil free Matabeleland and then kick out all swinaz

    • Ttt May 17, 2013 at 11:25 am #

      Suka wena medic

    • harare May 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm #

      you are kalanga not ndebele stop lying to yourself idiot

  16. Gandaga May 17, 2013 at 9:31 am #

    The provence that has been marginalised is Manicaland where diamond mining is taking place but not benefiting the local ppe. All the diamond mining companies are headed and dominated by Ndebeles, thanks to Obert Mpofu. Even MMCZ and ZMDC are headed and dominated by Ndebeles and they claim to be marginalised. Maybe they want to create a Rwanda scenario where the minority dominate the majority. The Khosian ppe were the original ppe in Southern Africa and not Zimbabwe alone and Ndebeles, Zulus,etc got their cqlics from those ppe. Therefore the Shona have the right to Zimbabwe just as the Zulu, Nguni,Xhosa etc have the right to South Africa as the Khosian ppe are almost extinct

  17. Bakwena May 17, 2013 at 9:33 am #

    l am so surprised by what . Siwela and those who argue with him because both sides are miles apart and parallel the ndebele are very minute the best solution would be to let those who can identify the roots of their forefathers ,l personally have located them across . Limpopo and l am welcomed ,only suffering under two tribes . I real wish l had been accorded a chance to migrate . Why should people suffer because someone just provokes a situation that cannot be contained . You . Nguni people go to. Zwelithini and tell him to negotiate with . Vendas . Sothos and . Tswanas to absorb their folks into their communities then remain with warmongers . Those with rabbies should seek vert doctors

  18. nhlanhla May 17, 2013 at 9:34 am #

    Should the incompetent, corrupt and wicked people attack us as they did in 1982, this time it would be a GAME-CHANGER. JOSHUA NKOMO, a peace loving man who restrained us is dead now. I so wish these cowards who take pride in killing defenseless citizens and raping women could attack us now so that it sparks a revolution. A brainless throwbacks of creation who think they know too much yet the state of the country is a testimony of how backward these rats are. They say we stole their cattle and women, if that is case can somebody show me a pretty woman from that side and I will give them back their so called stolen cows? The truth is that we a different from gangsters in both aspects of our lives both moral values and looks. I cannot imagine proud Nguni men going for what I see today unless if the opposite of evolution did occur in the eastern side of Mzilikazi’s kingdom during the 19th century.

    Mthwakazi people, where ever you are be PROUD of who you ARE.

    • shame May 17, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

      @Nhlanhla

      1982 is not the first time the butcher Mzilikhazi and his assegai band got whacked for their transgressions. Ian Khama’s grandfather, then king of Bechunaland/Barotseland beat the shit out of your ol’ man Mzi when he tried to rape and cattle-rustle and encroach on Okavango Delta lands. He gave him so much British firepower that after loosing 3/4 of his impis, Ol’ Mzi rose from the bush,dazzled, ‘shaken but not stired’ as they say, and walked across the battle field,and shook Khama’s hand out of respect and said ‘Wena, mfowethu nguwe wodwa indoda endodeni” “Ndiwe wega murume pane vamwe varume” ‘You are the man of man” My friend, be surprised. I am a dedicated fan of Ol’ Mzi, and one of his great-great -great grand children-although I don’t like stolen cattle meat.I like to buy mine straight from the butcher. But take or leave, the guy, ol’ grandpa Mzi was a tough comedian. Covering over 1000 miles from Ndabambi on foot, and shaking your victor enemy’s hand across the battle-field after preventing you from stealing his land,women, and cattle with your mouth salivating for want of meat, and your cork at half -mast for want of rape ain’t no joke especially with these desires in plain sight-but out of the reach your defeated means. Not many robbers have such gullibility. You, for one wouldn’t have the courage to shake the hands of the man who pummels the lights of life out of your body! You are to angry to loose, and you are too proud for nothing. You would want to have another go at the fight until you win. Well my friend, chance is the one thing abundant in this world wide world. Give 1982 another go. You gotta win this time-I can hear you almost saying so. But if you were as wise as Morgan Tsvangirai, you would pay that Nigerian soothsayer T.B Jeshuwa a visit and ask for divination into the results. You betta as well be strong enough to accept the disapointing answer from the heavens and eat a humble pie. Even if I ain’t T.B Jeshuwa, I tell you the answer is “NO, you don’t win” Another 1982 will have kwenzikwenzies more disastorous than before. The shona are actaully waiting for an excuse to take back their land;-the land that Mzilikhazi annexed in the 1860s. Another dissident activity will be the go button. And now that Ian Smith and his kin have all gone, what more could unite the Shona more than one common enemy? The Madzviti who stole their cattle, wome, land? To be honest with you nhlanhla, the sound of this Ndebele language in the Masvina regions is a reminder of an age so dark you look like little devils to them. They don’t like the Ndebele a little bit and belittling Nkomo’s wisdom at this point is foolish. The 1982 mele was just government vs. dissidents, it was not a tribal war, that is to say not even many shonas were aware of what was happening. And those that knew where not allowed to join-or interfere. DO you want to provoke them and to meet them in the ring after all that was taken by force from them by ol’ Mzi and Rubhengura? If I were you, or Siwela, I would find out this wise guy called Bakwena and take advice from him. He is right after all, just and so full of common sense, which is so rare in the south-west. Draw your family tree, trek it down and go back!

    • harare May 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm #

      kalanga i know you

  19. Falcon May 17, 2013 at 9:35 am #

    Though this might be one hell of a good idea, I mean to have the people in the provinces manage their own resources not just in Matabeleland, the pltaform being used by this proponent is too far steeped in the stone age. The devolution that some quarters have been clamouring for makes perfect sense..secession will not work with all these intermarriages and internal migration. A federation of some sort would be the answer and collapsing the proivinces into maybe three manageable entities as they have in SA…This idea needs a practical approach not this hate nonsense that this issue appears to raise on both sides of this imginary tribal divide. One thing that is clear though is that after his 15 minutes of fame the salesman, read Siwela, should leave this weighty issue to more capable hands, as is he is just raising up dust which is clouding the issue rather than advance its course..The new provinces will not necessarily have a member of one tribe or other at its helm but those who can articulate and ensure that national and provincial resources are shared equitably..tribalism does not form part of the equation at all.

  20. Adzo May 17, 2013 at 9:44 am #

    It seems as if the Shona people are marginalising themselves.I’m a Tonga a minority grp here in Matebeleland North.This place is not well developed just like other areas in Matebeleland provinces.Masvingo province,just like Mashonaland central or Manicaland is A SHONA province.Does that mean the shonas,have a superior diallect since pple in Masvingo are being marginallised yet they are Karangas and Manyikas in Manicaland both Shonas

    • Zhira Dzangu May 17, 2013 at 11:25 am #

      The answer to your last point is yes. That is also Zingizi’s point. In fact also Paul Siwela’s point although its specific to the Ndebele nation.

  21. Cde Zion May 17, 2013 at 9:47 am #

    African Americans waited for 219 years to produce a president yet you are complaining with just 33 years to produce at least a Reserve Bank Governor. My advice to you is that patience pays my brother wait for time,,it will definitely come.

  22. Wezhira May 17, 2013 at 9:59 am #

    Adzo,yes Shonas we marginalised by the Zezurus,they are like a majority among shonas.Manyikas,ndaus,korekore,zezuru and karangaz we are al shonas but Zezuru they think they are superiors than the rest.I’m a karanga from Masvingo and we are marginalised

    • shame May 17, 2013 at 2:37 pm #

      Wezhira, people from Masvingo are actually Rozvi. The Karanga people lived mostly in the region between Batonga and BaRozvi-that is places like Shurugwi, Mberengwa, Matonjeni,Nkayi, Plum Tree,Gokwe ,Gwayi (Chorocho) and so forth befor the Ndebele came. That is why the off-shoot captives called themselves Kalanga. The original Rozvi (sackers) covered the southern-most parts -or limpopo region up to Dzimbahwe and further east to Save. Beyond that, there are the manica and to the north, Zezuru and Korekore. If Masvingo is marginalised, be kind to simply say so not to make a blanket reference of the wrong people.

  23. Ndiri dununu regokwe May 17, 2013 at 10:07 am #

    Who is siwela by the way ,answer,siwela is a day dreamer,he is a confused persorn today he praises mugabe 2moro he denounce him,yu will find siwela tipping mugabe 2 hang on on power till 2018,at the same tym yu will find him siwela crying and complaining ubut zanu pf and mugabe,siwela ‘s dream is 2 see ndebele people overpowering the shona people ,ths will only happen in yo wild dreams mr confused siwela,

  24. izo May 17, 2013 at 10:29 am #

    Shona is not kalanga,shona claim to hate whites but they like history told in white man view,and when history is against them they cry foul

  25. Peter May 17, 2013 at 10:39 am #

    Zimbabwean history does not start from 1893. It goes far beyond that. Where were our Ndebele brothers in the 1700s. Stop dreaming Swela. Zimbabwe will remain one Zimbabwe.

    • Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 8:10 pm #

      peter
      And where were you Tshonas when the SAN dominated Southern Africa?

      What is Shona, was there any creature called a Tshona in the1700s?

      Why do Tshona Gukurahundis keep associating the 1700s with Tshonas, when there was nothing called a Tshona in the 1700s?

  26. junk zanu May 17, 2013 at 11:12 am #

    i do not deny the fact matebeleland has been maginalised. but to say u are advocating for soverenity and indepence thats bulll shit. dont read history books upside down. first regroup as
    matebeles and march back to where you came from.[you originate from south tshakas offshoots] . more like a whiteman claiming to have been born here. thats nonsense.where do u originate from? here in zim we wont accept a rebellion we will crush u like a flea. concentrate singing for your supper to have those charges withdran

  27. mandla ndebele May 17, 2013 at 11:13 am #

    If dialogue and respect fail we must also understand that war is a solution not a crime and it is the responsibility of an oppressed generation to fight for its freedom. Wat Siwela is talking abt doesn’t make sense to u shonas bt to us pple of Mat’land, it touchz a nerve, we r stil emotionaly in pain. Ridicule him as a person bt dnt belittle gukurahundi, it happened not solong ago. Da generation dat witnessd n bore da devasting wrath of gukurahundi is by n large still alive n da scars r still fresh coz no1 wnts to own up 4 their satanic act. So dnt talk abt forgiveness n healing b4 dat devil n his stooges acknoledge n atleast apologyz. Its amazing wat a simple, ” i’m sorry” wuld do n mean to da Mthwakazi masses!

  28. nyokoto1 May 17, 2013 at 11:25 am #

    one LOVE, one ZIMBABWE!!

  29. spangasenkunzi May 17, 2013 at 11:30 am #

    junk zanu.you should thank joshua nkomo for choosing peace than war.lookout masuku had ordered zipra force to go and invade the capital city.we are not afraid of you.read our history carefully .we are potentially dangerous and we are well known for creating war when they is no war.bayethe.one of the generals of the rhodesian army said that if he had an army as strong as zipra he would take the whole of africa.how many of your zanla forces died in chimooi.

  30. munzwa May 17, 2013 at 11:52 am #

    Siwela and company if u feel that you don’t belong in Zimbabwe just cross the limpopo back to Mzansi. Usatisembura.

  31. spangasenkunzi May 17, 2013 at 12:24 pm #

    munzwa you should also go back to burundi.your tribe cannot co-exist with other sadc tribes

  32. Gunga May 17, 2013 at 12:34 pm #

    Stupid! Why do u arrogate yrself the right to choose the time reference? Why 1893? We Shonas will tell u it ‘s was under the Rozvi so just shut up. U stole that land from us. The issue is bwt Ndebele marginalisation not Mthwakazi. We’re one Zimbabwe.

  33. Mkd 4eva May 17, 2013 at 1:27 pm #

    ANY ATTEMPTS TO DESTROY THE UNITY OF ZIMBABWE WILL FAIL

  34. Hey Madoda, I suggest you revisit the initial comments by Tag Teams. Does it make sense for our discussion to degenerate into a tirade of insults and blatant tribalism. The gist of the matter is whether you are for or against secession agenda. What is happening to our maturity and level headedness? Already some respondents are advocating for war – thats HIGH TREASON. Reasoning is a virtue. You don’t go to war if you are outwitted !

    We should all learn from @Bill1977. Thats an epitome of level headed contributions !

    • mtaka LOBHENGULA May 20, 2013 at 8:04 pm #

      there is no maturity to talk about here zimpande zoqethu lapha zihluma ngitsho sezisitshuniwe,matshona liyaziwa liyinzalo yamagwala inkosi yenu yom alaba uray munhumutapa owayeyiwarlord waze wagudlulwa ngamanguni ehla ngesilulu esuka enkabazwe yezwekazi elubangise ezansi.wena othi udabuka eguluwusa uyanya msathanyoko abakhoi san yibo bodwa aba evolver here in southern africa,sonke safika at one point be it (1000)kalangas,late (1600) read tshabis,or early 1800’s read ngunis and ndebeles akukwenzi ngcono,yekelani ihistory kachigwedere bantwana bamaswina ngqwatshi zabonyoko labogogo benu

  35. mandla ndebele May 17, 2013 at 1:44 pm #

    Gunga hw cn u say da issue is not Mthwakazi? Kanti wat is Mthwakazi? How do u seperate Mthwakazi n Ndebele marginalisation? Marginalisation is not targeted @ Ndebeles only bt to da hol of Mthwakazi, wat u say dnt make no sense. Ya’ll think u knw everyting. Shonas jst label evry1 frm Mthwakazi a Ndebele bt its made up of all the other tribes in Zim dat r not shona. Ere r very few pple in Mthwakazi dat r pure Ndebeles. Think Peter Ndlovu is ndebele, no, he’s tonga frm Binga. Minister Moses Mzila Ndlovu is Kalanga frm Plumtree. Both r Ndlovus, to da shonas, ere’r both Ndebele bt infact ere Tonga n Kalanga respectively. Gunga, one Zim!!!? Maybe to u shonas, bt not to us marginalised pple of Mthwakazi.

  36. Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 1:57 pm #

    I personally do not believe Siwela is really after a breakaway State. He knows very well, SADC would not counternance that, in an era of regional integration.

    His is a tactic that is commonly used in negotiations – you seek the extreme, in order to secure the moderate, which is indeed what you have always sort to achieve, after all.

    In wage negotiations, Unions representing Employees earning R2 000 per, month will demand R10 000, per month, knowing that as they negotiate, the parties shall all settle for say R5 000 per month, which is exactly what the Union members want – not the R10 000!

    A good example is that after all the noise in the past, the Zim constitution now recognises DEVOLUTION of power to the provinces. The issue now is the implementation of this clause. Besides, the Devolution as currently recognised in the new constitution is still not exactly what the people want, we are still looking at improving it so it mirrors that of South Africa and Kenya.

    To achieve this final prize, Siwela must carry on with his extremist views. Gukurahundi ZANU PF only responds to extremism – softy, softy talk doesnt help.

    Check the way they started jumping around when they heard that Alphonso Dlakama in Mozamboque had decided to revive his now dormant resistance movement!!!

  37. Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    I personally do not believe Siwela is really after a breakaway State. He knows very well, SADC would not counternance that, in an era of regional integration.

    His is a tactic that is commonly used in negotiations – you seek the extreme, in order to secure the moderate, which is indeed what you have always sought to achieve, after all.

    In wage negotiations, Unions representing Employees earning R2 000 per, month will demand R10 000, per month, knowing that as they negotiate, the parties shall all settle for say R5 000 per month, which is exactly what the Union members want – not the R10 000!

    A good example is that after all the noise in the past, the Zim constitution now recognises DEVOLUTION of power to the provinces. The issue now is the implementation of this clause. Besides, the Devolution as currently recognised in the new constitution is still not exactly what the people want, we are still looking at improving it so it mirrors that of South Africa and Kenya.

    To achieve this final prize, Siwela must carry on with his extremist views. Gukurahundi ZANU PF only responds to extremism – softy, softy talk doesnt help.

    Check the way they started jumping around when they heard that Alphonso Dlakama in Mozamboque had decided to revive his now dormant resistance movement!!!

    • reason May 17, 2013 at 2:34 pm #

      iwe phunyu, you think we dont know kuti yu are Siwela, get off mhani yr identity has been ccompromised long before you knew it.

  38. izo May 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm #

    You busy wasting energy we own houses in your so called land to make matters worse paying me as your landlord,even in mzansi i can go and live there this land belongs to God not shonaz,you believe in distorted history made by whites

  39. izo May 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    Were you there during the so called rozvi state believing in imaginary characters,did you demarcate the borders of the said state to say rozvi state covered southern africa all the stories were told by whites,

  40. moyoza May 17, 2013 at 4:26 pm #

    Shona people play the divide and rule when it comes to tribalism card in matebeleland. They are in pains to claim that kalangaz are not ndebeles and ndebeles are zulus. They are failing to explain their cultural diversity within themselves. wihtin the shona groupings there are manyikas, zezuru, ndau, kalanga we all accept their collective umbrella term the “shona”. there are probably 6 million ndebeles including those in south africa of the Zimbabwean origin. Yes in reality they were few zulus who ran away from tshaka to the present day zimbabwe. These strong man conquered a lot of tribes and assimilated them in their empire on their way to zimbbawe. thats how the ndebele empire and ndebele language was born.

    • Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 8:03 pm #

      Moyoza
      This is why I call them Gukurahundis. This type of divide and rule politics, they got it from the Gukurahundis in the 1980s, particularly from the Shona Satanic Verses 1979 Gukurahundi ZANU Grand Plan. They are today continuing with it!!!

  41. jahelihle May 17, 2013 at 5:34 pm #

    mashona u forget ukuthi asilesabi.siyalibhuqa any time.lingagwala its a fact that is why Mzilikazi named you matshona coz of ur disappearing prowes wen in danger!even during the war zanla forces spent ther tym terrorising the masses in pungwes!!:liyanya!!!”mdidi yenu!

  42. satan May 17, 2013 at 6:13 pm #

    @ jahelihle

    You mean the zanla forces were shona? You also want to impress our minds that during the war the Zanla forces were terrorising harpless folks whilst you folks did much of thge fighting? That would be a shame! So why did you loose the 1980 election if you were folk comrades? Hee-ee asiolisabi, hee-e asilisabi. pathetic! the days of mzilikhazi are gone my friend. I personally respect old mzi for his military genious and outright savagery (not the coward Lobengula who ran away from the war front) The Madzviti fable is out of sell-by date. Munoroweka zvekuroweka zviya machinda. Tina sizakhubangaza sisemgodhoyi ngoindawo lezono siseUMzilikhazi loLobengula. Cabanga mushe mfanami. the sins of your fathers have not been forgiven, not even.

  43. Sihle May 17, 2013 at 7:10 pm #

    True dat shonas dnt forget and forgive . Dumiso was partially correct . The brutal truth is only the dissidents were supposed to aporojaizi. Bob was partially correct .the brutal chokwadi is he was supposed to wipe nyoka nemazai ayo from the earth pa gukurahundi part 1. To the kalangas and tongas: we got no bhifi with you . Hauevha if you choose to be like punyu wekwa siwela and take daka risinei nemi its fair and fine we will just classify you as hundi yakasarira. Furirirwai nembavha dziri kufunga kuti kuve mundeere means its a rare status(vintage)becoz its facing extinction imi move deluded and start thinking saizvozvo. provoke part 2 and see what happens next . Nekisiti taimu hatisiyi mazai enyoka . And its not yet over pathetic fools (mese mandeere nema kalanga)

  44. Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 7:33 pm #

    Its funny how these Gukurahundi Shonas struggle hard to define amaKhalanga as Tshona when it suits them. Its unfortunate a few of our fellow Mthwakazi are falling into this trap. Wasnt Dr Joshua Nkomo a zimuNdeeevere in the 1980s, yet we all know he was Khalanga?

    Generally to all Tshonas, eveyone from Matebeleland/Mthwakazi is Ndebele. You only cease to be Ndebele when you join them and disassociate yourself from the Ndebele identity, like some are doung here.

    If you support MDC and Welshman Ncube, yoy become a zimuNdevere. But if you support Tswangirayi or Mugabe or Makoni, you are national, a Zimbabwean!!

  45. Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 7:57 pm #

    They think focusing on Mthwakazi is what will keep them united as Tshonas. You are wasting your time.

    Everybody knows Manicaland is oppressed and marginalised. Masvingo is dry, no rains, hunger and marginalised. Masvingo roads are a disaster and people are dying in accidents everyday.

    You can hide all this under that false Tshona unity, you are wasting your time. The whole world knows Zezurus dont want you in power, and pretending that Mthwakazi people are your major enemy will simply not wash.Everybody knows Mthwakazi, especially the Ndebele are being used as a scapegoat so as to keep Tshonas united. This is why they will continue with this 1800s history, because they know without it, there is no Tshona unity!

    Forcing everyone under Zezuru hegemony will never work. The centre is not holding, admit to this, for the sake of the country please, stop the pretences!!

  46. Phunyukabemphethe May 17, 2013 at 8:18 pm #

    The truth is that Tshonas have a deep seated inferiority complex. This is why they are so obsessed with everything that has to do with Matebeleland. Accept it, thats the truth. You have an inferiority complex.

    Where in the world have you seen a majority that is so preoccupied with and so obsessed with a minority, especially a minority that doesnt have much political or economic power?

    Thsonas definitely need psychological help.

  47. Sihle May 17, 2013 at 8:31 pm #

    Musiuno makanzwa ka kuti takatenga mapatsi echikopokopo kwaZURU ka. Zvimwe zvombo ndozvakapinda nepa angola around 2008 . Kasi muri kufunga kuti ndezvekurwisa jojo bhushi na toni bhureya kani . We are just waiting kuti munyatso rebesa miswe tiwane a valid enough reason yekunyatsoku dzvadagai zvekuti kana obama na jakobhu vanototi magona stereki . Keep up the good work punyu ka siwela . Maybe you can find yourself a nice spot in a form 2 history textbook paunenge wazo kukurwawo pachikamu chinoteera ichi .

  48. Eish ! It seems the polarisation will never end! There is rabid tribalism and pathological hatred. If Jesus Christ were to come today, he would be accused of being a Shona or Ndebele. No matter how you preach the gospel of peace, tolerance, cultural diversity etc, some people are BEYOND REDEMPTION. We are digging our own graves madoda. There is no room for prayers six feet down under, neither is there ventilation. REPENT !!!

  49. Gxobinduna May 17, 2013 at 11:25 pm #

    Leave you Jesus out of this! Were was he when Gukurahundi Shonas were killing people. Golo lenja!

  50. @Gxobinduna. Thank you!May God bless you !

  51. Gayigusu Qedamaswina May 18, 2013 at 2:00 pm #

    Let me make it very clear ukuthi liyafuna kumbe alifuni midlwane ka robathi, uMthwakazi siyathatha futhi sithatha ngenkani kusazonya igundwane!

  52. fortune May 18, 2013 at 5:52 pm #

    mr Siwela have shown that he is a great leader by speaking out things that affect mthwakazi as a nation without fear,Ngilusizi kulabo abenza sengathi iqiniso abaliboni bona belibona.Abantu bakamthwakazi manje bangathi baya masha ngoba phela belezikhalo sebekhandelwa amacala..Abantu bakamthwazi abavunyelwa ukusebenza komthwakazi, i truck ihamba iyethwala abantu e Harare ibalethel umsebenzi abantwana bakaMZILIKAZI BEHLE EGEDINI bangakhuluma kuthiwa balobandlululo.Umnotho wethu uthathwa uyedevelopha iHarare ,singakhuluma silobandlululo.If this government is prepared to adress this problem then i forsee blood shedding within few years to come.People of matabeleland a right to self determination.I realise that some of my fellow friends from mashonaland are just critisizing mr Siwela without understanding his facts,they do not understand the history of Zimbabwe.Those who did not see how much effort was contributed by ZIPRA TO BRING THE SO CALLED ZIMBABWE ARE IN DARK.We can speak the way we want but let us not forget reality will be different.The government has failed the people of mthwakazi

  53. fortune May 18, 2013 at 5:58 pm #

    mr Siwela have shown that he is a great leader by speaking out things that affect mthwakazi as a nation without fear,Ngilusizi kulabo abenza sengathi iqiniso abaliboni bona belibona.Abantu bakamthwakazi manje bangathi baya masha ngoba phela belezikhalo sebekhandelwa amacala..Abantu bakamthwazi abavunyelwa ukusebenza komthwakazi, i truck ihamba iyethwala abantu e Harare ibalethel umsebenzi abantwana bakaMZILIKAZI BEHLEli EGEDINI bangakhuluma kuthiwa balobandlululo.Umnotho wethu uthathwa uyedevelopha iHarare ,singakhuluma silobandlululo.If this government is not prepared to adress this problem then i forsee blood shedding within few years to come.People of matabeleland have
    a right to self determination.I realise that some of my fellow friends from mashonaland are just critisizing mr Siwela without understanding his facts,they do not understand the history of Zimbabwe.Those who did not see how much effort was contributed by ZIPRA TO BRING THE SO CALLED ZIMBABWE ARE IN DARK.We can speak the way we want but let us not forget reality will be different.The government has failed the people of mthwakazi

  54. fortune May 18, 2013 at 5:59 pm #

    mr Siwela have shown that he is a great leader by speaking out things that affect mthwakazi as a nation without fear,Ngilusizi kulabo abenza sengathi iqiniso abaliboni bona belibona.Abantu bakamthwakazi manje bangathi baya masha ngoba phela belezikhalo sebekhandelwa amacala..Abantu bakamthwazi abavunyelwa ukusebenza komthwakazi, i truck ihamba iyethwala abantu e Harare ibalethela umsebenzi abantwana bakaMZILIKAZI BEHLEli EGEDINI bangakhuluma kuthiwa balobandlululo.Umnotho wethu uthathwa uyedevelopha iHarare ,singakhuluma silobandlululo.If this government is not prepared to adress this problem then i forsee blood shedding within few years to come.People of matabeleland have
    a right to self determination.I realise that some of my fellow friends from mashonaland are just critisizing mr Siwela without understanding his facts,they do not understand the history of Zimbabwe.Those who did not see how much effort was contributed by ZIPRA TO BRING THE SO CALLED ZIMBABWE ARE IN DARK.We can speak the way we want but let us not forget reality will be different.The government has failed the people of mthwakazi

  55. Phunyukabemphethe May 18, 2013 at 6:07 pm #

    Tshonas, bloody idiots, you deserve nothing but fire and brimstone!

  56. fortune May 18, 2013 at 6:45 pm #

    may God bless our couragious,brave,well focussed and true leader mr Paul Siwela in getting our independence by 2018,to those who call it a day light dream,may GOD prove them wrong.

  57. fortune May 18, 2013 at 7:20 pm #

    It is surprising that shonas forget they chaised away from lake tanganyika because of bewitching,i do not hate you guys but
    thus part of your history.

  58. izzy dube May 18, 2013 at 8:30 pm #

    The time has come for Mthwakazi to pull out of Zimbabwe. The Zimbabwean people have demostrated to us in many ways that we are not wanted. Another man’s rebel is another man’s freedom fighter as pple of Matabeleland we stand firm behind Siwela he is our hero

  59. mtaka LOBHENGULA May 20, 2013 at 8:19 pm #

    awu cde viva mthwakazi vivaa!!vivaa cm vivaa!lamashona basazodla ingqwatshi zabonina balalela uchigwedere edakwe zimbanje ,lezinja zafikelwa ngama arab lamaputukezi kuqala ezimbazwe amanguni edlula lapho amakhalanga nezinye izinhlanga zivele sezakhe lapho,abathwa ba evolver lapho lezinto zifana ncamashi namanqe akaze nangaliphi ilanga zizingele kodwa zi claimer every dead carcas but still they can’t eat it fresh cause they not sure ukuthi sifile ngempela ,manje bathi yobo abayakha i great zimbagwe msathayabonina ,mtshaza womthakathi omkhulu unehanda

  60. Mpiyezwe May 26, 2013 at 12:08 am #

    Anyone referring to Lookout Masuku , we as family request you to respect him and us , he died a painful death because of baseless accusations motivated by power , greed and tribal hatred. He had numerous conversations with Mujuru on what was happening and why he was being persecuted having dedicated his life to free what is Zimbabwe now and Azania . If it is Siwela you are after then so be it and leave those of our kith and kin who died in a senseless unprovoked massacre which the then regime decided to call Gukurahundi. I think I write for all others who lost kith and kin during that time when I say please respect our dead and us . The pain of that loss so fresh in our minds evident to this day is bigger than you can ever imagine even when you read and write long paragraphs of borrowed opinions you call history

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